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Col. Macgregor: US Will Leave the Middle East Soon

Col. Macgregor: US Will Leave the The Middle East Soon!

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Leans that way — check · agenda: West in chaos, Russia strong

Belief the Pravda network pushes: The US and EU are chaotic and hypocritical, Russia is strong and justified, and sanctions on Belarus hurt Lithuania.

Douglas Macgregor harshly criticises Trump, Hegseth and Vance over the US war with Iran, its cost and Congress's failure to oversee it, then describes the Russia–Iran meeting as a show of an Moscow–Tehran–Beijing axis and says Putin holds the winning hand in Ukraine.

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“Ukraine is dying as a as a nation-state.”
Ukraine is dying as a as a nation-state.

Most of the video is a US-insider's opinion criticising American policy, which is not propaganda by itself. The closing claims that Putin 'holds the winning hand' and that Ukraine is 'dying as a nation-state' lean toward the 'West in chaos, Russia strong' slant, but the transcript cuts off and he voices this as his reading of Moscow's message, so it cannot be confirmed.

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Transcript (en, 538 lines)
0:00 Colonel does an electoral defeat of the
0:02 magnitude suffered by the incumbent
0:05 president's party, the likes of which
0:07 happened this week, seep its way into
0:10 the Pentagon?
0:12 >> That's a great question. I'm hearing all
0:15 sorts of interesting rumors that come
0:16 floating over the Potomac in my
0:17 direction.
0:19 And it would seem that there is some
0:20 sort of preparatory bloodbath underway.
0:23 And that that extends beyond the White
0:25 House. I'm told that uh
0:27 the current chief of staff Susie Wiles
0:29 has got the knives out for both Hegseth
0:32 and Vance
0:33 uh who are, you know, I guess um
0:35 potentially sacrificial lambs for the
0:37 failure. Who knows? But I certainly
0:39 think that Hegseth is in a lot of
0:40 trouble.
0:41 He's about as popular as the plague. And
0:43 I think a new Democratic Congress when
0:45 it's uh seated in January would probably
0:47 put him at the top of their list uh as a
0:50 run-up for ultimately going after Trump
0:52 himself.
0:53 >> Who is
0:55 it's probably an unfair question, but I
0:56 have to ask it. Who is to blame for the
0:59 catastrophic effects of the war and for
1:01 its military failure? Is it Donald Trump
1:04 micromanaging? Is it Pete Hegseth
1:06 micromanaging? Is it the planners and
1:07 generals below uh the four stars?
1:10 >> Well, ultimately President Trump is the
1:12 one who's driven the train.
1:14 Uh you know, I don't think that if you
1:16 brought in the Joint Chiefs
1:18 and had a serious discussion with them
1:20 in the so-called tank in the Pentagon,
1:22 that we would have gone to war with
1:23 Iran. I think there would have been
1:24 pushback. It would have been polite.
1:26 They would have rolled out
1:27 >> [clears throat]
1:27 >> a lot of data for the president. They
1:29 would have discussed the realities of
1:31 dealing with a country that size, its
1:32 population, the geography.
1:35 Uh I I don't think it would have
1:36 happened, but President Trump insisted
1:37 on it. And he did not encounter any
1:39 resistance.
1:41 And people say, "Well, that's not true.
1:42 You know, I spoke out. I said this. I
1:44 said that."
1:45 Well, if that were true, there would
1:46 have been a knock-down, drag-out fight.
1:48 Uh you know, remember we we went through
1:50 this at the beginning of the Vietnam
1:51 War.
1:52 And we had Hubert Humphrey who wrote a
1:54 brilliant memorandum outlining
1:56 everything that was wrong with the idea
1:57 of going into Vietnam with conventional
1:58 ground forces.
2:00 And uh it's you can still find it online
2:02 and read it and he presented that to
2:03 Lyndon Johnson and LBJ went crazy.
2:06 Brought him back into the Oval Office
2:07 and did everything but shooting through
2:08 the chest and said, "Either you get on
2:10 board or you get out." And
2:12 Humphrey apparently didn't know Johnson
2:14 very well or didn't understand his man.
2:16 Ended up skulking in the corner of his
2:17 office for a day and then came back and
2:19 said, "Oh, I'm sorry. You're right and
2:20 I'll go along." And you know, it's
2:21 unfortunate because
2:23 Humphrey thought that he was uh going to
2:25 be the next
2:26 vice president and try to become
2:27 president. And what he should have
2:29 thought about it was his duty as the
2:31 vice president to step in and say,
2:33 "Look, I can't support this and if
2:34 you're really going to go through with
2:35 this, you're going to have to go through
2:36 it without me." And that of course is
2:38 what J.D. Vance should have done.
2:40 J.D. Vance is now being presented as the
2:42 man who, "Well, I was really never for
2:43 this and oh, you know, I didn't like
2:45 this." And on and on and on.
2:47 It's all crap. Uh the truth is if he'd
2:49 felt strongly about it at all,
2:51 he'd have taken a position against it
2:52 and then put his uh vice presidency on
2:54 the line. But I think J.D. Vance also
2:57 had his eye on the next job that he
2:58 could get. You see this all the time in
3:00 Washington. The two-star doesn't want to
3:01 do anything for fear he won't get a
3:03 three-star or a third-star. And the
3:04 three-star won't put anything at at risk
3:06 cuz he wants a four-star. The four-star
3:08 wants another four-star command.
3:10 There is no shortage of people willing
3:11 to go along with dumb ideas. And then
3:13 when the dumb idea fails, they all run
3:15 for the hills.
3:16 Americans should be very, very cautious
3:18 about this and very suspicious. Now, as
3:19 far as Heggseth goes,
3:21 I I don't think there was any question
3:23 in Heggseth's mind that this had to
3:24 happen and he was for it and he was
3:25 going to do it.
3:27 In which case uh under the
3:28 circumstances, he might consider
3:29 resigning before somebody pushes him out
3:31 through impeachment. That strikes me as
3:33 as being smart. But what we don't know
3:35 now
3:36 is if President Trump will carry through
3:38 on the next phase and go back uh to war.
3:41 I I think he will. I I don't agree with
3:43 those who think that this is sobering
3:44 him up and he's going to walk away. Hope
3:46 I'm wrong.
3:47 But I think he will. And frankly,
3:49 Heggseth is going to stay there through
3:51 the next phase. And when it fails, he
3:53 should resign.
3:54 >> So, what if any effect does the
3:58 overwhelming shellacking that uh the
4:00 Republicans took uh this week have on
4:04 the war in Iran? None?
4:07 >> None, you idiot. You know, the Democrat
4:09 There are Democrats talking about
4:10 passing a bill that would defund the
4:11 war.
4:13 Uh and that's something they can do.
4:14 There's no question about it. That
4:15 somebody should have been onto that a
4:16 long time ago. This is catastrophic.
4:19 And I think we're going to go into
4:20 another phase. It's going to make
4:22 matters even worse than they already
4:23 are. I don't see any evidence that
4:24 Donald Trump is going to say, "Well,
4:25 I've reconsidered. I'm backing off. I
4:27 guess I was wrong." No, I don't see
4:29 that. I see him saying, "Well, we're
4:30 going to get it right this time and
4:32 we're going to visit hell on uh on
4:33 Iran."
4:34 So,
4:36 no, Judge. I I don't think that. And the
4:38 the other thing is midterms are not
4:40 the same thing as uh the presidential
4:42 elections. We we've been through this
4:44 before. In 1946, the Republicans took
4:46 control of both houses after FDR.
4:49 And that was because a lot of people
4:50 were not happy with the the way the war
4:51 was conducted.
4:53 And the same thing happened to Woodrow
4:54 Wilson. Uh he was bounced out. The
4:56 Republicans came in until the
4:57 depression, they were in power.
4:59 So, I I think you're going to see
5:00 something similar eventually, but is it
5:01 going to be the the big game changer? I
5:03 mean, I guess
5:04 what can we expect from the Democrats? I
5:06 think they'll they'll be very interested
5:08 in suspending the rule of law, opening
5:10 prisons, emptying criminals onto the
5:11 streets. That's what we've got in
5:12 Virginia.
5:14 I think you're going to see borders
5:15 reopened. I think they'll put a stop to
5:17 any effort at all to enforce federal law
5:20 and deport uh round up and deport
5:21 criminals and millions of illegals.
5:23 So, that much I expect, but you know,
5:25 overseas, who who still owns the
5:28 Congress?
5:29 >> Mhm.
5:30 >> Well, we know who owns the Congress.
5:32 Um you have some
5:35 uh interesting intel involving the
5:37 aircraft carrier USS uh Roosevelt.
5:41 What can you tell us is happening there?
5:43 Where is it and what's going on there?
5:45 >> Well, I'm not sure exactly where it is.
5:46 I just know that it will be another week
5:48 before they reach the area of
5:49 operations, which is presumably the
5:51 Indian Ocean or the Mediterranean. I I
5:53 don't know which. But, it's pretty clear
5:55 that until you have three carrier battle
5:56 groups on station,
5:58 this uh air and missile offensive is not
6:00 likely to begin
6:02 uh because that gives you if you have,
6:04 say uh 50 to 60
6:07 operational
6:08 quality fighters that you can upload
6:10 then that's 180 to 200 planes and you
6:12 have another you know, 60, 70, 80
6:15 aircraft that support that. If you're if
6:17 you're going to do what Donald Trump has
6:19 been promising with both the air and
6:20 missile power, you'll want that third
6:22 battle group on hand.
6:25 >> Does it matter how many battle groups he
6:26 has? Does he still believe that he can
6:29 accomplish in November what he failed to
6:32 accomplish in June and March?
6:35 >> I think he he has to.
6:37 In my judgment from understanding Donald
6:39 Trump and what he has said publicly,
6:42 this is not a man who retreats easily
6:43 from bad policy positions.
6:45 He he prefers if he can to sort of bury
6:48 the whole discussion and walk away, but
6:49 this is too big
6:51 and too obvious and too public for him
6:52 to do that.
6:54 And and quite frankly, if he did it,
6:56 then I think the demands for his
6:58 resignation
7:00 would would be very loud and very quick.
7:02 So, what does he say? He says, I give it
7:04 the final maximum effort and
7:07 we'll see whether or not the Iranians
7:09 can withstand it and there's a good
7:10 chance we may still get get the kind of
7:13 quote-unquote deal that we need to
7:15 declare victory and leave.
7:17 >> Colonel, how could
7:18 the president have spent
7:21 47 billion dollars unauthorized by the
7:24 Congress
7:26 without a clear attainable military
7:29 goal? Now, the 47 billion is a low
7:32 estimate. It's based on Hagel's numbers.
7:35 So, the real number is probably higher.
7:37 Whatever it is, it's an extraordinary
7:39 amount of money on an unauthorized war
7:41 and unauthorized expenditure with
7:44 catastrophic economic consequences to
7:47 the everyday American consumer.
7:51 >> We spent according to Brown University
7:54 and their supporting uh
7:56 think tank if you want to call it that
7:59 between 2001 and the end of 2022, we
8:02 spent over 8 trillion dollars on the
8:04 wars in the Middle East.
8:06 That's roughly 1/3 of the national
8:09 sovereign debt that we accumulated
8:11 during that period of time
8:12 because we had a national sovereign debt
8:14 of about 24, 25 billion by the time that
8:17 was over.
8:18 So, the question is how could the
8:19 Congress sit quietly, watch those kinds
8:22 of sums of money be wasted? Well, again,
8:25 we have no gold standard. Go back to Ron
8:28 Paul and talk about that and and keep in
8:29 mind that when in doubt we can
8:31 quantitative ease and we can get the
8:33 money we need to do whatever we want
8:34 because there's no war tax. There's no
8:37 war bond. There's no pain for the
8:38 American public. So, that's the first
8:40 answer. The second answer is a lot of
8:42 people benefited from that.
8:43 I don't know where we are in those
8:45 investigations. I don't have much faith
8:46 in the Attorney General's office these
8:48 days to get anything done, but there
8:50 were members of the Senate who made
8:51 millions of dollars as a result of their
8:53 connections to defense industries and
8:55 nonprofits and so forth.
8:57 So, when you ask today, we're paying I
8:59 think 2 billion dollars a day
9:02 on in interest on the national sovereign
9:04 debt right now.
9:06 >> Right.
9:06 >> I've been considering that. That's
9:07 phenomenal.
9:08 I haven't heard anybody raise any
9:09 objections or any concerns. So, I just
9:12 don't think the Congress
9:14 can exercise its oversight
9:16 responsibilities. I think they're it's a
9:18 question of corruption or ignorance.
9:21 They'll get upset about whether you
9:23 know, Lieutenant Suzy Q in the in the
9:25 Navy was able to go to sea and do what
9:27 Suzy Q wanted. They'll they'll have a
9:29 hearing on that and then lambaste a navy
9:31 because a navy is finding that sending
9:33 women to sea is a catastrophe
9:35 for the Navy as it is for the other
9:37 armed services when they have to send
9:39 forces into combat. They'll get excited
9:41 over that, but they won't pay any
9:42 attention to the things that we're
9:43 discussing that really are infinitely
9:45 more important.
9:47 >> Well, the one thing the Congress does
9:48 very well is to do nothing.
9:51 >> Well, remember what Churchill said, the
9:53 smallest things are punished out of all
9:55 proportion to their importance and the
9:57 big things are largely ignored or swept
9:59 under the rug.
10:00 >> Right. Right.
10:01 Um
10:03 how do you read the meeting today
10:05 between General Rezaie
10:09 the uh
10:11 military adviser to the supreme
10:13 Ayatollah and also the head of the
10:15 Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps
10:18 for a couple of hours with President
10:19 Putin himself. There he is.
10:22 in the Kremlin.
10:23 And with the Kremlin showing these
10:25 videos before the meeting even started,
10:28 they obviously want the whole world to
10:29 know about this.
10:31 What what what How do you interpret
10:33 this, Colonel?
10:35 >> It's the Russian
10:36 segment of the iron triangle that
10:38 reaches from Beijing to Moscow and down
10:39 to Tehran.
10:41 It's a demonstration
10:42 that is designed to tell President Trump
10:45 we firmly stand behind Iran. We will not
10:47 allow Iran to be defeated. We will
10:49 provide the Iranians with whatever we
10:51 possibly can. And oh, by the way, in
10:53 case you haven't noticed, I, Vladimir
10:55 Putin, hold the winning hand in Ukraine.
10:57 Ukraine is dying as a as a nation-state.
10:59 Its government is wallowing in
11:00 corruption and and I would say
11:03 incompetence. Then its population is is
11:06 absolutely wild with grief and and
11:08 despair. They're all afraid of dying or
11:10 of starvation or freezing to death in
11:12 the winter. You put all these things
11:13 together and I think it's a message,
11:15 "Look, we're we're ready to finish up in
11:17 Ukraine. We're ready to end it. But
11:19 we're not going to abandon Iran and
11:20 we'll do whatever we can to support
11:22 them. I'm sure there are last-minute
11:24 coordinations going on and discussions
11:26 about technology transfer.
11:28 But it's it's part of the larger
11:29 strategic picture that is moving against
11:32 us for for reasons of our own.
11:35 Dumb dumb things that we've done
11:36 including the whole war on Iran.
11:38 >> How much longer can Ukraine last? We
11:40 have all said it's on its last leg.
11:42 Somebody put together a montage of my
11:45 guests and me saying Ukraine is on its
11:47 last leg and it looks ridiculous because
11:48 we've been saying it those very words
11:51 for years. You're free, of course, to
11:53 use that phrase or some other phrase. I
11:55 pose the question. [laughter]
11:57 I'm sorry. I pose the question, how much
12:00 longer do you think Ukraine can last
12:02 given this continued and persistent
12:04 reticence on the part of President Putin
12:07 to finish the job?
12:08 >> Well, that's something your your
12:10 expression or your sentiment there is
12:11 something widely shared in Russia.
12:13 Uh the Russian people are all standing
12:15 around and saying, you know, this needs
12:16 to end. Go end it.
12:18 Now, we have seen some turnover in the
12:20 general officer corps. Uh somebody who's
12:22 immensely unpopular in Russia, who is
12:23 seen as partially responsible for the
12:25 slow, methodical grind, of course, is
12:27 Gerasimov, the chief of the Russian
12:29 General Staff. General Surovikin, who
12:31 set up the strategic defense that was so
12:34 effective against the Ukrainians, thanks
12:36 to the wonderful military advice that we
12:38 and NATO provided to them.
12:40 Uh are are not really capable of doing
12:42 anything anymore. And I've seen charts
12:43 showing territory they took or retook,
12:46 and it's it's all been lost.
12:48 They still have thousands of mercenaries
12:49 inside the country. They still have all
12:51 of our intelligence assets working for
12:52 them along with the British. He is
12:54 surrounded, that is, Zelenskyy and his
12:55 inner circle, by MI6, CIA operatives.
12:59 They're going to keep him alive because,
13:01 regardless of what Donald Trump says,
13:03 the CIA is going to fight this war to
13:05 the finish.
13:06 Unfortunately, it would be great if
13:07 somebody would get control of Radcliffe
13:09 and put an end to this nonsense because
13:11 it's in the interest of Ukrainians as
13:12 well as America's, but unfortunately,
13:14 that's where it is. So, how much longer
13:16 can it go?
13:17 Well, we've had some very interesting
13:18 developments. We've seen the president
13:21 of Finland, the prime minister of
13:22 Norway, suddenly get on the phone and
13:24 talk to uh President Putin.
13:26 And I think people in Sweden and Norway
13:29 and and Finland are all waking up to the
13:30 reality that, you know, we better start
13:32 talking about this war against Russia
13:33 because we don't have a snowball's
13:35 chance in hell of fighting and winning
13:36 it. So, let's see if we can get a
13:39 solution without this nonsense.
13:41 That's That's the first time we've seen
13:43 in public, in a demonstrable way, a
13:46 divergence in thinking between the
13:48 people on the continent, that is,
13:49 Germany, France, and to a lesser extent,
13:51 London, and the rest of these people in
13:53 Scandinavia. I think it's the beginning
13:55 of mass desertion of Ukraine.
13:58 So, I I think between now and the end of
14:00 the year, in January, as the weather
14:01 gets worse, the situation worsens.
14:04 Uh it's going to be very tough to for
14:05 this
14:06 phony facade of a government to survive.
14:10 >> The European people are rightly up in
14:14 arms at the incompetence and efficiency,
14:16 profligacy of their governments, but the
14:19 European elites, the globalists,
14:22 uh still insist they can
14:25 have a say in Ukraine and back up
14:27 Zelensky. I don't know how they can come
14:29 to this conclusion, uh but they do.
14:31 Where do you see this going?
14:33 >> Well, remember we have thousands of
14:35 agents on the ground from the CIA and
14:37 the intelligence apparatus in the United
14:38 States as well as Great Britain
14:40 working closely with uh the globalist
14:42 leaders to keep them in power.
14:44 What do I mean by that? I mean that
14:46 they're out there working with the
14:47 German BND, the Bundesnachrichtendienst.
14:49 This is the equivalent of our CIA, if
14:52 you want to call it that, against the
14:54 possibility that German nationalists or
14:56 Polish nationalists or French
14:57 nationalists, anybody who's a
14:59 nationalist comes to power.
15:01 They're obviously focused on AFD, but
15:03 it's a it's a concerted effort and
15:05 again, this is Washington is involved in
15:07 this to prevent any change in the
15:10 governmental structure in Europe. Now
15:12 again, this is This is something else
15:13 that I don't think President Trump has
15:15 looked into very carefully because
15:17 unless he's changed even more
15:19 dramatically than than it it seems to be
15:21 the case now,
15:22 he was always very sympathetic to the
15:23 nationalists because they were the ones
15:26 who insisted that they should take more
15:28 responsibility for their own defense,
15:30 which of course was something that Trump
15:31 talked about when he was in the office
15:33 the first time and continues to mention
15:35 from time to time now.
15:37 I don't know that he understands it
15:39 while he may be saying that, in truth
15:41 we're actively working to prevent it.
15:43 I don't think it's going to work.
15:45 I I think we're in a hurricane and we're
15:47 trying to bail out the sinking the
15:49 sinking ship of the EU and NATO and
15:52 unfortunately all we have are a couple
15:53 of buckets and I think we're sinking.
15:55 But it's going to make things worse than
15:57 it otherwise might have been. The
15:58 opportunity to reach agreements in a new
16:00 security architecture with Russia is
16:02 gone.
16:03 And if we can't hold things together and
16:05 I don't think we can, you're going to
16:06 end up with something that's ultimately
16:08 dictated by Moscow. And people won't
16:10 like it, but we did everything in our
16:11 power to ensure that that happened.
16:13 In fact, I would say globally what we
16:15 should begin to see or come to terms
16:16 with is that you have blocks of nations
16:19 in various regions.
16:20 And these blocks are organized or
16:23 arranged around a major power.
16:25 In the Pacific, Northeast, and and much
16:27 of Asia, it's China, whether we like it
16:29 or not. It's not because the Chinese are
16:31 threatening anybody or want to march in
16:32 anybody's country. It's because
16:34 everybody wants to do business with
16:35 them. It's because they're the economic
16:37 juggernaut. When you move further to the
16:40 to the west, you then encounter India
16:41 and Iran.
16:43 Two civilizational states that are going
16:45 to emerge from all of this immensely
16:46 powerful. Uh they already are in many
16:49 respects, but after this war is over,
16:50 it'll be even more so the case. And then
16:52 we

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