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Abu Dhabi talks, CSTO summit and the Belarusian economy (Borovik show, SBTV)
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Leans that way — check · agenda: US-Russia talks decide Ukraine's fate
Belief the Pravda network pushes: Russia and the United States should negotiate Ukraine's future without Europe, while Ukraine and the West block peace and threaten Russia.
A Belarusian state-aligned talk show that is mostly about Lukashenko's Shklov meeting, agriculture, wood processing and GDP, with only a short teaser touching on Ukraine peace talks and the CSTO.
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“Today, Washington has less influence on Ukraine's position, since Europe pays more.”
Today, Washington has less influence on Ukraine's position, since Europe pays more.
The teaser presents Putin and Lukashenko as mediators and Trump's White House as the helpful party in the peace process, which leans toward agenda 2, but the transcript is cut off before the actual Ukraine/Abu Dhabi discussion and the rest is off-topic Belarusian economy talk, so a distortion of facts cannot be shown.
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Transcript (en, 1112 lines)
0:00 The weather has cooled, a real autumn
0:02 has arrived, winter is coming, just like
0:03 , you know, animals have this kind of
0:04 fattening habit.
0:05 >> The world needs it. China needs it,
0:08 Russia needs it. The activity of our
0:10 buyers in the domestic market is also
0:12 good. And that's because we make good
0:13 products. Just
0:14 >> this week, the CSTO summit was held in
0:16 Moscow. Next year, the Collective
0:19 Security Treaty Organization will also
0:21 celebrate its 25th anniversary. I'm
0:23 >> speaking to the point, on the
0:24 problematic issue, yes. The
0:25 >> Belarusian side has always positioned
0:28 itself on the need for more action than
0:30 , for example, just talk and proclaiming
0:32 something.
0:33 >> How many times have both Putin and
0:35 Lukashenko tried to mediate normally,
0:37 taking into account the positions of
0:39 both sides. When you pay, you have more
0:40 influence, yes. Today, Washington has
0:42 less influence on Ukraine's position,
0:45 since Europe pays more.
0:47 The White House, which is now under
0:49 Trump's control, is facilitating the
0:51 peace process to one degree or another.
0:53 And that's good.
0:55 Then,
0:55 >> some spy drama has unfolded.
0:57 >> I don't understand these office romances
0:59 at all.
1:00 It immediately makes the employee less
1:02 effective, yes. Relationships are always
1:04 different, especially at this level, yes
1:05 .
1:06 The man got himself into trouble.
1:14 >> Vadim, hello. Glad to see you in our
1:16 studio.
1:16 >> Hi, Polina.
1:17 >> We haven't seen you for a week, but
1:19 we'll catch up now.
1:20 >> Our employees.
1:21 >> Yes.
1:23 We'll catch up now.
1:25 The weather has gotten colder, a real
1:26 autumn has arrived, winter is coming,
1:28 like, you know, animals have this
1:31 Haven't you started wrapping up for
1:33 winter, so to speak, from the inside?
1:35 >> Oh, from the inside? No, from the
1:37 outside, and from the inside, sports,
1:38 sports.
1:39 >> Gain, gain.
1:40 >> Don't get fat, it's bad for your
1:42 cardiovascular system. It's
1:44 >> warm this way in the winter, warmer.
1:46 It's
1:47 >> all just fiction.
1:48 >> Although I have to give credit where
1:49 credit is due, the heating in the
1:50 apartments is very good. For example, at
1:52 home it's absolutely wonderful. The
1:53 >> heating is great, yes.
1:54 >> I think it's great, especially now, with
1:56 all these radiators where you've
1:58 adjusted them.
1:59 >> Thank God, in those with a
2:01 >> new system, at least you can avoid
2:03 over-consuming electricity and heating,
2:05 and so on, because you can adjust them.
2:08 Because when the housing stock is old,
2:10 some people have a sauna.
2:12 People can't adjust this either, so
2:14 progress is always a plus. The
2:17 >> president held a meeting in Shklov this
2:19 week about such serious and global
2:21 topics, a republican
2:23 seminar-consultation on modern
2:25 approaches to regional development.
2:28 The Shklov district was chosen for a
2:30 reason; it's a familiar place for the
2:32 president, but as he emphasizes, that's
2:34 not the only reason, and not the only
2:35 reason, why he chose this district.
2:39 It's an average district, yes, in terms
2:40 of development: not the richest, yes,
2:42 not the most lagging—it's precisely an
2:44 average district, where, by and large,
2:45 the local authorities have made an
2:47 effort and, by and large, are developing
2:49 steadily.
2:51 And, as the president emphasizes, this
2:53 example of such work, of a businesslike
2:54 approach, needs to be replicated across
2:56 the country today.
2:59 A large meeting, very focused and
3:01 concrete.
3:03 And the president outlined many areas
3:06 that should be given attention today,
3:09 probably in every district, every
3:11 regional center, every city, every town
3:14 : what to focus on today to ensure
3:17 regions are strong, so that people feel
3:20 like everything is being done for them,
3:23 creating all the conditions for their
3:26 work.
3:27 So, I'm offering you just a few of these
3:30 areas that our president outlined, so we
3:32 can discuss them a little more
3:34 specifically.
3:37 Two of them are wood processing and
3:39 agriculture.
3:41 The head of state emphasized that wood
3:44 processing and agriculture are what we
3:47 will always be doing in Belarus.
3:50 We will never abandon them, and no
3:52 matter who works here, these are always
3:54 the areas we will focus on.
3:57 Of course, agriculture—yes, we often
3:59 talk about this in our program, and we
4:01 have excellent export figures. We see
4:03 how we're growing, we see how much
4:05 attention is being paid to rural areas,
4:07 and the kind of return the president
4:08 expects. And, in fact, we'll see this
4:10 return in specific figures, in billions
4:13 . If we talk about logging, wood
4:16 processing, and so on.
4:19 Here too, given that we have, yes, such
4:21 a forested country, that forests are our
4:24 wealth, what prospects and resources do
4:27 we have?
4:28 What else can we add here?
4:30 >> Well, firstly, the meeting itself is
4:31 very systemic in nature; that's
4:32 important, isn't it?
4:35 Especially since, as the head of state
4:37 said, we're not simply presenting some
4:38 objectives to you, right?
4:42 We have an example of how a region that
4:45 doesn't yet meet the established average
4:48 development standard should develop.
4:51 As the head of state said, the Shklov
4:53 district is a good district, but not the
4:56 best. There are better ones.
4:59 But those districts that don't meet the
5:01 standard, that is, Shklov, should look
5:03 to this district as a reference point.
5:07 The head of state, in a nutshell,
5:09 outlined the government's and First
5:11 Forest's vision for specific development
5:13 areas, as to how we should move forward
5:15 and what we should achieve.
5:17 Well, of course, agriculture is our two
5:21 main, important areas of work.
5:24 And here we have set very ambitious, so
5:26 to speak, plans for ourselves.
5:28 The First President even said that 2
5:31 billion would be a good target.
5:34 And thank God, we're setting such goals
5:36 for ourselves. Back when we were
5:38 rejoicing at 5 billion and everyone was
5:40 amazed that Belarus earned 5 billion in
5:43 agriculture, now it's 10. Why can't we
5:45 achieve 20? We're working on land
5:47 reclamation.
5:50 The head of state, you see, noted the
5:52 very careful approach to cultivating the
5:54 fields.
5:56 That's somewhere on the edge of the
5:57 forests; we could cultivate the field
5:59 along the edge. Look, they didn't know
6:01 how to store apples before. Today,
6:02 that's not an issue.
6:05 Why should all the fertilizers be used
6:07 outdoors?
6:10 The challenge today is to properly store
6:13 fertilizers and utilize our agricultural
6:15 potential, based on the quality of the
6:17 land and, consequently, the availability
6:19 of labor resources in a given region,
6:22 right?
6:23 The specifics there are dairy farming or
6:26 meat-oriented, right? Low-cost. Proper
6:29 consolidation of farms. Where
6:31 consolidation isn't necessary, it's not
6:32 necessary. There's no need to burden
6:34 successful enterprises with those farms
6:36 that are currently lagging behind.
6:38 It's reasonable to distribute everything
6:40 and act. A systematic approach.
6:42 Growth points have been identified,
6:44 where we can grow. For example, if
6:46 there's a good region like Shklov, for
6:49 example, a lot of forest, lots of fir
6:51 trees, lots of spruce, right? Go ahead,
6:54 or a paper mill, right? Doors, right?
6:57 Because it's convenient, logistics, a
6:59 convenient transport and logistics hub.
7:01 The same goes for wood processing: 40%
7:03 of the territory is covered by forests.
7:06 That's huge potential, right?
7:09 And we, uh, take good care of the
7:11 forests in the sense that, well, we're
7:13 always renewing them, right?
7:15 So, we're already using, uh, commercial
7:18 timber according to a certain age, right
7:20 ? It's specially prepared. We don't
7:23 produce round timber; that would be
7:25 wrong, right?
7:27 Or we use our own timber. The same goes
7:30 for the rapid construction of quick
7:31 wooden houses, right?
7:33 This is valued all over the world,
7:34 eco-friendly housing, right?
7:36 We could even build some kind of
7:38 appropriate complexes, maybe for, uh,
7:39 recreational use for the population or
7:41 for visitors to Belarus, right?
7:43 And, of course, timber processing. From
7:46 pellets to, uh, paper, cardboard, and so
7:50 on, right?
7:51 Furniture, furniture factories, uh,
7:53 corresponding panels.
7:54 So, the potential is enormous. It's in
7:56 demand all over the world. China needs
7:58 it, Russia needs it. We'll, uh, restore
8:01 relations with Europe and be friends, uh
8:04 , from Klaipeda to various regions of
8:07 the world. Or directly through Poland.
8:16 And we have enormous potential in these
8:19 markets; we have room to grow.
8:21 Tomorrow we'll be exploring new markets
8:23 , but we must be prepared; we must have
8:25 high-quality products. You see, we've
8:26 launched our dairy products, and we have
8:29 world-class dairy standards.
8:31 Who knows, they're chasing our products
8:33 all over the world, even in Russia,
8:36 We've already discussed how some Russian
8:39 companies produce their own brands at
8:42 our factories and want to label their
8:44 products as "Made in Belarus," because
8:47 it's a kind of quality seal. Well, we
8:49 should work the same way with wood.
8:56 >> Strong regions are one of the country's
8:58 socioeconomic development priorities,
9:00 and in this regard, the president is
9:02 setting the goal of developing agrotowns
9:05 He's guiding us toward them, saying they
9:06 should have
9:08 everything that regional centers have.
9:12 Today, there are already about 1,500
9:14 agrotowns in the country, and the goal
9:17 is to connect them all with good roads—
9:19 that's one thing.
9:23 And secondly, really, how can we attract
9:25 people to rural areas today if we don't
9:27 create good conditions for them, so
9:30 there's a clinic, kindergartens, sports
9:32 centers?
9:34 This is where, in your opinion, we need
9:37 an
9:37 >> absolutely right approach, because we
9:39 need to distribute the workforce evenly
9:41 across the territory, right?
9:43 Otherwise, we won't utilize the full
9:45 potential of our republic, right?
9:48 And the goal is to connect all the
9:50 district centers with good, high-quality
9:52 roads, and between the district centers
9:55 there should be high-quality, as you
9:57 rightly said, agro-towns that will have
9:59 all the necessary social standards that
10:01 allow people to feel comfortable, like
10:04 in a small town, right?
10:07 This includes opportunities to get an
10:10 education, medical care, access to basic
10:13 food products, and so on, right?
10:16 Household services.
10:18 This is the approach that allows people
10:20 not only to live in the land where they
10:22 were born or where they found a job, but
10:24 also to want to live there.
10:28 Because, you see, well, naturally, there
10:29 are advantages to living, perhaps,
10:31 somewhere in the capital, its advantages
10:33 Well, on the other hand, there are
10:35 people who value peace and quiet, who
10:36 value, perhaps, a certain close social
10:38 circle.
10:39 >> There are many examples of people from
10:40 the capital, by the way, moving with
10:41 families, moving to the countryside.
10:43 >> Organic food. Here, someone loves all
10:46 this, maybe fresh milk or fresh meat,
10:49 and so on.
10:50 And, of course, the conditions have to
10:52 be created for him.
10:53 Maybe he would like to live there, but
10:55 if there aren't, let's say, good
10:56 utilities, yes, electricity, gas, water
10:57 , but that's not the issue in an
10:59 agro-town.
11:00 There, all of that is always there,
11:03 And if there are also good household
11:05 services, a woman wants to go to a good
11:07 hairdresser, yes, a decent hairdresser,
11:09 wants to buy a grocery set, not wait for
11:11 some mobile shop, and so on.
11:14 Again, this isn't even a topic in
11:16 agro-towns. It already exists, but there
11:18 needs to be a high standard, a
11:20 corresponding product range, right?
11:22 We've learned to regulate prices.
11:23 Currently, Belarus has very low
11:26 inflation and inflation expectations.
11:28 Incidentally, we have a good indicator,
11:30 around 4%, right?
11:31 The population's income level is at a
11:33 good level.
11:34 Again, note that this is also a social
11:36 sphere; this income level is the
11:38 national average, both in agro-towns and
11:40 in rural areas.
11:43 The president has repeatedly emphasized
11:45 that if we need to provide, pay people
11:47 for this work, let them work longer,
11:50 more, and get good wages for it.
11:53 This is a very sound approach.
11:55 And, of course, if we want to keep
11:56 people on the land, preserve, well,
11:58 what's right, or even ensure—in some
12:00 places, we don't need to preserve, but
12:01 rather strengthen, yes, in terms of
12:03 redistributing labor resources—we must
12:05 create the appropriate conditions.
12:08 >> Well, since you've touched on certain
12:10 economic indicators, perhaps a question
12:12 would be appropriate here.
12:15 This week, the Ministry of Economy
12:16 announced preliminary results for the
12:18 Belarusian economy this year.
12:22 Ah, GDP is $ 108 billion, and salaries
12:25 are over $ 1,000 equivalent.
12:28 Well,
12:29 >> that suggests
12:29 >> results.
12:30 >> That suggests that you can make money in
12:32 Belarus, right?
12:34 And this is the systemic approach of the
12:37 top official and the way the government
12:39 is working today, so that we, without
12:42 citing any artificial difficulties
12:44 created for us in trade and so on,
12:46 simply do our job well, understanding
12:48 that, first and foremost—and this is
12:51 again the position of the head of state
12:53 , he's absolutely right here—we could
12:56 engage in rocket science.
12:59 We do have a Belarusian satellite, yes,
13:02 in orbit.
13:03 How much will that cost? Do we have our
13:05 own resources for this energy-and
13:07 material-intensive production?
13:10 Why should we do something that's not a
13:13 traditional industry for us?
13:15 If in those industries that are
13:17 traditional for us, generations before
13:18 us have already created the
13:20 corresponding potential, there are
13:21 reserves for development and
13:23 profitability. We just need to do it
13:25 well and better than others in the world
13:26 . So that's what we've done.
13:28 And the corresponding indicators, right
13:29 ?
13:30 Well, of course, for us, let's say, the
13:32 foreign trade situation with the Russian
13:33 Federation has objectively developed
13:35 positively. And even Putin just met with
13:37 Lukashenko and Putin, and they noted
13:39 here. Vladimir Putin even said that it's
13:41 amazing how well we trade, right?
13:44 And again this year, there's been more
13:45 than 10%growth in foreign trade.
13:47 Well, thank God.
13:49 God grant that we continue to develop in
13:51 this vein in the Russian market.
13:53 And, of course, we also work in other
13:55 markets, in other countries, so to speak
13:57 , in order to diversify our foreign
13:59 trade. But overall, of course, this is a
14:00 good indicator.
14:02 Over 100 billion.
14:03 >> Of course.
14:03 >> Dollars, we're already in the eighties
14:05 in the world in nominal GDP. That's good
14:08 Citizens were once promised 500 yuan in
14:10 wages, but they're already at 1,000.
14:13 Listen, this is already putting a burden
14:15 on economic entities.
14:18 And we need to think now not only about
14:19 wage growth but also about labor
14:21 productivity, so that it's consistent
14:22 across the board.
14:25 And, by the way, well, by the way, the
14:26 activity of our customers in the
14:27 domestic market plays a major role in
14:29 the sustainable operation of the economy
14:31 That's also good. And that's because we
14:33 make good products. If we didn't have
14:35 our own, good dairy industry, right?
14:39 And, basically, if we weren't successful
14:41 in agriculture, right?
14:43 Then consumers would choose to buy
14:45 foreign products, even on the domestic
14:48 market. Listen, I went to one of our
14:51 good shopping centers and saw such
14:53 beautiful apples.
14:55 I'm often accustomed to seeing these
14:57 apples so bright, beautiful, and from
14:59 some far-off, distant countries,
15:01 sometimes even, you know, those transit
15:03 countries—Belgium, Holland.
15:06 Basically, they don't grow there, or
15:07 they grow in greenhouses.
15:08 And you don't exactly jump for joy at
15:09 the thought of buying them there. Listen
15:11 , everything is Belarusian. And there
15:12 are four types. Look how well they're
15:14 preserved, they shine.
15:16 I've tasted a real apple, not this weird
15:20 thing, right?
15:22 Well, listen, they've learned not only
15:23 to produce it, but to preserve it and
15:25 deliver it to the consumer. That's how
15:27 it should be done. That's why our
15:29 citizens, having earned it, will spend
15:32 it today.
15:33 Some will build an apartment, some a car
15:35 , and still others will buy our food and
15:36 clothing.
15:38 If you make high-quality clothing, and
15:40 the light industry thrives, then our
15:42 citizens will prioritize buying
15:44 Belarusian products.
15:46 >> Well, I suggest we talk about clothing
15:48 on the next program, considering the
15:50 president was in Orsha yesterday to
15:52 discuss flax production, something he
15:54 also discussed in Shklov.
15:56 You can come in your linen embroidered
15:58 shirt; we'll discuss it.
16:04 Not a single program of ours is complete
16:07 without security issues, without war and
16:09 peace. And just this week, the CSTO
16:11 summit took place in Moscow.
16:13 Next year, the Collective Security
16:15 Treaty Organization will also celebrate
16:16 its 25th anniversary.
16:19 And during this time, well, you could
16:21 say that an effective mechanism has been
16:24 developed for preserving and ensuring
16:26 security in our territory.
16:30 As always, the president very often at
16:33 such summits and events, no matter what
16:35 level, firstly, calls on his colleagues
16:38 not just to gather and discuss issues,
16:40 but to identify the problematic topics
16:43 of interest, and calls for concrete
16:45 solutions.
16:48 This time in Moscow, he also stated that
16:50 , yes, there are certain issues on the
16:52 agenda, but they periodically shift from
16:55 year to year, and the Belarusian side's
16:57 position is always that more action is
16:59 needed than, for example, simply talking
17:02 and proclaiming things.
17:06 And Alexander Lukashenko also voiced
17:08 certain initiatives.
17:11 Specifically, he spoke about how the
17:13 CSTO should not remain on the sidelines
17:15 of modern technological processes, about
17:17 how it should become an organization
17:18 that serves as the military-political
17:20 foundation for the Eurasian Charter of
17:22 Diversity and Multipolarity in the 21st
17:24 century.
17:26 And, naturally, he also answered the
17:29 question of whether Belarus and Russia
17:31 want war or peace.
17:35 Commenting on the president's speech and
17:38 the event in general, how effective do
17:41 you think the CSTO is today, or is it
17:43 really more of a figurehead, lacking,
17:46 shall we say, the political will of its
17:49 individual leaders.
17:51 >> Well, overall, of course, the top
17:53 official's report, his speech, was very
17:56 systemic.
17:57 A clear vision and understanding of our
17:59 role in the regional security system,
18:01 the role of the CSTO.
18:04 And, of course, the head of state
18:07 identified the current pain points in
18:10 the context of regional security.
18:13 These include the need to keep up with
18:16 modern technology, including dual-use
18:19 military technologies, ensuring
18:21 information security, anti-terrorism
18:24 security, and cooperation in matters of
18:27 , uh, interaction with, uh, forces, uh,
18:30 aviation and air defense.
18:34 And, of course, the most key statement
18:36 from Alexander Lukashenko during this
18:38 summit for me was, uh, his extreme
18:41 statements, when he said that we are
18:43 indeed meeting, often it's all routine.
18:47 There are 20 or so documents.
18:49 Uh, sometimes it's all more like
18:51 paperwork.
18:53 Well, listen, yes, there are two options
18:54 here. This can be discussed in the
18:56 context of, uh, such, you know,
18:58 journalistic commentary, or on the
18:59 substance of the matter. I like to get
19:01 to the heart of the matter. So,
19:02 >> leave the journalistic comments to the
19:04 journalists.
19:04 >> Yes, I'll leave them to you. So, no
19:06 offense intended. So, what do we have
19:08 within the CSTO? Has it become stronger
19:11 No. It hasn't become stronger, and
19:13 that's an objective fact.
19:16 Uh, so, uh, Belarusian security is
19:18 ensured first and foremost, and that's
19:20 another fact, by honest cooperation with
19:23 the Russian Federation.
19:25 Putin and Lukashenko met, and he said
19:27 that the latest weapons systems have
19:29 arrived, uh, to us.
19:32 Uh, accordingly, we've learned how to
19:34 work with them.
19:36 Again, we have an agreement regarding
19:37 the interaction of armed forces, and the
19:39 Russian troops concentrated in the
19:41 western direction, they're not even, uh
19:42 , for the purpose of covering our
19:44 direction; they're not even operating in
19:46 Ukraine, despite the fact that there's
19:47 currently a certain shortage of, uh,
19:49 military personnel in Russia.
19:53 And, accordingly, uh, overall, both the
19:55 technical equipment and the interaction
19:57 of Russia's military units and nuclear
19:59 zones play a major role in ensuring our
20:02 security.
20:04 The head of state pointed out that, for
20:06 example, it would be good if, for
20:08 example, during certain periods, he
20:09 singled out two aspects—yes, this, uh,
20:11 attempt to undermine domestic political
20:13 security, like what we had in 2020 or
20:14 something like that.
20:16 Incidentally, the CSTO, uh, the only
20:19 time such an effective demonstration of
20:22 cooperation on matters of internal
20:24 affairs among the members of this
20:26 organization was in Kazakhstan, right?
20:29 It turned out that the Organization
20:31 worked effectively and, on the whole,
20:33 resolved the situation. Well, the
20:35 emphasis was on the fact that in such
20:36 situations we must act collectively. Why
20:38 is this important, in principle, for all
20:39 players?
20:41 You see, when you have one very large
20:43 and even important strategic ally
20:45 helping you, right?
20:47 Well, I'm telling it like it is, right?
20:49 That's good, but it obliges you to do a
20:52 lot, right? And it changes the balance
20:55 of geopolitical forces somewhat. If
20:56 you're being collectively influenced by
20:58 this organization, even nominally, the
20:59 main power will still be the same—the
21:01 same thing happened in Kazakhstan:
21:02 Russia was the main power.
21:04 But this is nominally being done by an
21:05 international organization within the
21:07 framework of the obligations we have
21:08 between us. This is more in line with
21:11 our national interests and the issue of
21:14 ensuring our sovereignty.
21:16 Regarding the situation in the CSTO
21:19 itself, well, the situation has been
21:21 complicated by Armenia's inflated
21:24 demands, which refused to negotiate with
21:27 Azerbaijan, without demanding that the
21:29 CSTO countries adopt a counterproductive
21:32 position.
21:34 Of course, coercion is possible, but if
21:37 the processes themselves involve
21:39 contentious issues that need to be
21:41 resolved by both sides, then it's not,
21:44 shall we say, a bit of blackmail, right
21:48 Either you, represented by Russia,
21:51 support us militarily, or, so to speak,
21:53 we leave the CSTO and the Eurasian Union
21:56 and turn in a different direction.
21:59 Well, that's probably not the most
22:01 productive agenda, let's say. You see,
22:02 we've reached the point where they no
22:04 longer have a say, right?
22:06 Although, Armenia can only leave the
22:07 CSTO by parliamentary decision.
22:09 There's no such decision yet, right?
22:12 But overall, what are the nuances within
22:14 the CSTO?
22:17 If the central force, so to speak, of
22:20 the Russian Federation's CSTO is engaged
22:23 in a military operation, that doesn't
22:26 make the CSTO stronger, because on the
22:29 periphery, the central player, the
22:31 organization, is forced to militarily
22:34 draw a certain state into its orbit of
22:37 influence.
22:39 This doesn't appeal to the CSTO members
22:41 . Look, the CSTO members have different
22:43 positions on the strategic military
22:45 defense.
22:47 We're interested in our strategic ally
22:49 emerging from this conflict economically
22:52 strong and stable, and in continuing to
22:54 interact normally, including with
22:56 Ukraine as a normal, friendly state with
22:59 which, God willing, we might restore
23:01 trade and economic relations in the
23:03 future.
23:05 This, however, doesn't create...I'm
23:07 speaking essentially about the
23:08 problematic issue, right?
23:12 Even different views on this situation
23:14 and the problem itself don't create
23:17 additional, so to speak, areas for
23:19 building relationships within the CSTO.
23:22 Well, I'll give you an example. Okay. If
23:24 within the framework...This is how the
23:26 problematic situation with Armenia was,
23:30 It was insoluble, and when the hour X
23:32 arrived, yes, when Armenia's primary
23:34 condition for staying in the CSTO, for
23:36 the political elite, was a military
23:39 response from either the bloc or Russia
23:41 to the standoff with Azerbaijan.
23:44 That is, we want to hold on to these
23:45 territories. How many times have both
23:47 Putin and Lukashenko tried to mediate
23:49 normally, taking into account the
23:50 positions of both sides, but it didn't
23:52 work. In this case, imagine that certain
23:55 events occurred, and somehow we became
23:58 involved within the framework of this
24:00 CSTO. I'm sure that the other CSTO
24:02 members are completely distancing
24:04 themselves from this situation. They're
24:06 not ready. Firstly, they see it
24:07 differently, and secondly, they're not
24:09 ready to spend their, say, resources on
24:11 this. Therefore, there are different
24:12 approaches. This is important to clarify
24:14 , understandably, if we're going to
24:16 focus solely on smoothing over the
24:18 situation.
24:20 Firstly, I'm telling you honestly, if
24:22 we're working within any international
24:25 organizations, the only correct approach
24:27 is the one that the Republic of Belarus
24:30 has always implemented and proposed.
24:33 We have a strategic ally, we have
24:35 obligations. 70%of trade is with the
24:37 Russian Federation, right?
24:39 And we've taken a position, aligning
24:41 ourselves with our strategic ally, just
24:42 as, in principle, Kyrgyzstan and
24:44 Tajikistan have within the CSTO.
24:46 Kazakhstan is also heavily tied to
24:47 Russia, but is trying to maintain a
24:48 balance.
24:49 And at the same time, we're pursuing a
24:51 hybrid, uh, foreign policy in the
24:53 context of diversifying our foreign
24:55 trade, so that if our ally has some
24:57 economic problems but can't buy
24:59 everything, even what we produce, right
25:01 ? So that we can trade.
25:03 And that's how the world is built.
25:06 And so our task, uh, within the
25:08 framework of the CSTO and within the
25:10 framework of this Eurasian Charter,
25:13 which Belarus offers a lot, is to, uh,
25:15 guide the regional security concept
25:17 towards—and it's enshrined there—so that
25:20 issues on the international agenda and
25:23 the inclusion of small and medium-sized
25:25 states in global players 'spheres of
25:28 influence are resolved through
25:30 diplomatic means.
25:32 Because, unfortunately, today we see
25:34 that both sides, in general, all strong
25:37 players in the region and, uh,
25:39 accordingly, at the global level. Listen
25:42 , we're worried, Hussein, uh, he was
25:43 ousted from power as a result of the
25:45 pain in the desert. So listen, before
25:47 that, Hussein terrorized, fought with
25:50 Iran, and Kuwait, and so on, right? Well
25:52 , he was a little stronger there, had
25:54 the support of the US, and that's what
25:55 he did. So, I'm saying, it's not just
25:56 global players, but sometimes regional
25:58 ones too, that act this way.
26:00 So, our task, yes, is to ensure that
26:02 major players, such as the United States
26:05 of America, refrain from military
26:07 operations on the territory of third
26:10 countries, but resort to methods of
26:12 drawing them into their orbit through
26:15 political, diplomatic, and economic
26:17 means.
26:19 So that Russia doesn't have to use such
26:21 methods, uh, especially on its borders.
26:24 That's our task.
26:26 And therefore, our CSTO, I'll tell you
26:28 again, will only be strong when the
26:30 players are there—when they are all 100
26:32 %guaranteed sovereignty.
26:35 They will have confidence that, in the
26:37 long term, participation in this union
26:39 will guarantee their sovereignty and
26:40 ensure its security.
26:43 And we will be a centripetal force,
26:44 primarily in our economic unions, like
26:46 the Eurasian Economic Community, right?
26:49 And the Union State shows that things
26:51 are better with us. Here's a good
26:52 example of a Union State today.
26:55 Listen, when you have a GDP of 108, yes
26:57 , dollars, and a salary over 1,000
26:58 dollars, well, of course, who's going to
27:00 say it's bad that Belarus, within the
27:02 Union State, has such close trade and
27:04 military-political cooperation with
27:06 Russia?
27:07 We're also saving money militarily.
27:10 Russia is helping us save money on the
27:12 army, right? And we'll support it
27:13 economically. Listen, this is a good
27:15 example and a good centripetal force.
27:17 So, if, both within the CSTO and the
27:19 Eurasian Union, we rely on the principle
27:21 of, well, being good with us, people
27:23 will form a line to come to us.
27:26 If we see any center of gravity as being
27:29 forced to draw many into its sphere of
27:32 influence by military means, this will
27:35 be a centrifugal force.
27:38 This applies to the US, Russia, and
27:40 China, if it takes a different path. How
27:43 does China operate today?
27:45 We issue loans, create favorable
27:47 conditions, exchange technologies, and
27:49 gain control of certain zones of
27:52 Therefore, I repeat, in order to be an
27:55 effective integration association and
27:57 military-political bloc, we need to be
27:59 attractive and guarantee all
28:01 participants 100%sovereignty and
28:08 >> Continuing with the topic of security.
28:11 Of course, the world's attention was
28:13 focused on Abu Dhabi this week, where
28:14 direct consultations were held between
28:16 representatives of the US, Russia, and
28:18 Ukraine.
28:19 This is the first after a nine-month
28:22 lull.
28:24 Well, we can't yet say that we have
28:26 received any global breakthroughs or
28:28 major news.
28:29 It's clear that negotiations are ongoing
28:31 , and
28:34 not everything has been fully disclosed
28:35 So far, we only know that a prisoner
28:37 exchange will take place on both sides.
28:41 However, US Presidential Envoy Jared
28:43 Kushner did share some details, saying
28:46 that complex issues were discussed, and
28:48 that no unresolved issues remained.
28:52 Clearly, the most complex issues are
28:54 territorial ones, but he also noted that
28:56 the United States and European countries
28:59 have begun discussing the contours of a
29:01 future security architecture on the
29:03 continent, which will affect both Russia
29:05 and Ukraine.
29:07 We know that representatives of the
29:09 European Union also attended, perhaps
29:11 wanting to participate in some way, but
29:13 remained on the sidelines.
29:17 In general, Europe's participation in
29:19 this process and those very same
29:22 security guarantees, including from
29:24 European partners, are something Ukraine
29:27 , on the one hand, insists on.
29:31 On the other hand, we are now seeing the
29:34 EU's interim budget for 2027 being
29:37 approved, with hundreds of millions of
29:39 dollars more going toward military aid
29:42 to Ukraine.
29:44 So, where are we heading here, where
29:46 will we end up?
29:48 >> Well, firstly, the fact that
29:50 negotiations are ongoing is good, but I
29:52 see that both sides are betting on
29:54 surviving the winter campaign.
29:58 Russia, seeing certain gaps in funding
30:01 for the Ukrainian armed forces, access
30:03 to intelligence, and so on, is currently
30:06 trying to
30:11 exert pressure on Kyiv by striking
30:13 dual-use infrastructure.
30:16 Therefore, the negotiations—the ultimate
30:18 outcome of which we are seeing today—is
30:21 a prisoner exchange; this is also a good
30:23 humanitarian component, and, of course,
30:27 we can view this as a plus.
30:30 Ukraine is counting on the fact that,
30:32 seeing that Trump didn't quite get the
30:35 results he expected in the election
30:37 today, he will now face some rather
30:40 difficult aspects in domestic policy
30:42 matters.
30:45 And they are counting on the fact that
30:47 Congress will perhaps favor the
30:48 Democrats more.
30:50 And while today is Natasha, when you pay
30:53 , you have more influence, right?
30:56 Today, Washington has less influence on
30:58 Ukraine's position, since Europe is
31:00 paying for this entire undertaking,
31:04 And, accordingly, how the negotiation
31:06 process unfolds will depend, among other
31:09 things, not only on the positions of
31:12 Moscow and Washington, but—aaah—
31:14 excluding Europe's position, and to some
31:17 extent, perhaps even China's opinion
31:19 will be heard at a certain stage, yes,
31:22 on this issue.
31:23 Although China has distanced itself for
31:25 now, saying that this is a European
31:26 issue, so get on with it.
31:27 But I think, since China is interested
31:29 in developing the Belt and Road
31:31 Initiative, it can have a say in Moscow
31:33 at a certain stage, right?
31:36 That is, it's time to negotiate. That's
31:38 my opinion, right?
31:40 But in the context of today's agenda, I
31:42 believe that we cannot leave out the
31:44 party that is currently providing the
31:46 bulk of the financing for this company.
31:50 It's clear that today both sides are
31:52 carrying out hybrid attacks, interfering
31:53 in political processes in both camps,
31:55 yes.
31:56 Well, that's normal, an information
31:58 cover operation is underway, and both
32:00 sides are harshly pursuing a hybrid
32:02 confrontation, right?
32:05 Of course, seeing mass unrest in six
32:07 European countries, parties are emerging
32:10 that aren't quite inclined—or rather,
32:12 parties are gaining strength that aren't
32:14 quite inclined to spend money on
32:16 financing military campaigns, anywhere
32:19 in the world, yes, especially in Ukraine
32:24 The Russian Federation is aiming to try
32:26 to push things through.
32:29 If negotiations don't work, then each
32:31 country is demonstrating, we're
32:33 negotiating, we're not refusing dialogue
32:37 So, we're kind of in the realm of a
32:39 civilized approach, a desire to achieve
32:41 peace, but in reality, unfortunately, as
32:44 we see from the stated demands, both
32:46 sides haven't abandoned their core
32:48 positions.
32:50 The main, uh, stumbling block is
32:52 territory. The main result for Russia,
32:54 on the one hand. Let's put it this way:
32:56 there is still a result in terms of
32:58 geopolitics.
32:59 The point is that in 2021, when Russia
33:03 was
33:07 categorically opposed to the
33:09 geopolitical direction, the actions of
33:11 the political elite, and, in principle,
33:13 the state of Ukraine itself, being
33:15 adopted without taking Russia's opinion
33:17 into account (that is, where they would
33:19 go, which military bloc, how they would
33:21 trade)—this was unacceptable for Russia
33:23 and it begged to be taken into account—
33:26 some politicians called Russia a "
33:27 global gas station" and said that it
33:29 didn't carry enough weight in global
33:31 politics to be questioned.
33:34 Today, even some politicians from Europe
33:36 want to get to the negotiating table and
33:38 talk with Russia.
33:41 So, Russia has demonstrated that, at
33:42 least in terms of regional politics, it
33:44 is a very significant player, right?
33:49 On the other hand, the country that is
33:52 the main beneficiary of this conflict is
33:54 now an arbiter—well, not to say not an
33:57 arbiter, but, let's say, it is the main
33:59 beneficiary, but it has reached the
34:02 point where this issue is now being
34:04 discussed.
34:06 Come on, guys, let's make peace.
34:08 We've taken control of 80%of the
34:09 territory where you, Yanukovych,
34:11 Medvedev, and Putin, recently held and
34:13 hosted parades, and we've already taken
34:15 control of that.
34:16 We're now going to recoup our investment
34:20 So let's also sell your gas through our
34:23 pipelines to Europe.
34:25 So you understand what's going on.
34:27 I agree with Alexander Grigoryevich here
34:30 that, no matter the reasons, to some
34:33 extent, the White House, which is
34:35 currently under Trump's control, is
34:38 facilitating the peace process to some
34:40 extent.
34:42 And that's good. That is, Russia has
34:44 achieved some of its goals within the
34:46 framework of this NWO. At the very least
34:48 , it has proven its status as a regional
34:51 power with significant influence.
34:54 Ukraine has preserved and, for now,
34:55 confirmed its sovereignty.
34:57 And Washington has also achieved some of
34:59 its goals. Now we need to make sure it
35:01 all comes together so that all parties
35:03 are satisfied. Right now is the most
35:05 difficult process of adjusting and
35:07 finding compromises. But at least one
35:09 more round, at a minimum, this winter
35:11 campaign to, ah, let's say, strengthen
35:14 our position, our arguments in favor of
35:16 getting people to agree with this
35:24 >> I propose to conclude our program by
35:26 discussing the big scandal, ah, in the
35:28 tech world—the departure, ah, of the
35:31 head of Nvidia, ah, Jensen Huang, who
35:33 was associated with...It all started
35:35 when it turned out he was acting as his
35:37 wife's surrogate.
35:39 And then some spy dramas unfolded and so
35:42 on. Anyway, ah, Tim Cook will apparently
35:44 be taking over the company this week,
35:46 it's become known. Well, other than the
35:48 fact that the stock price fell and how
35:50 it all affected the market, we won't
35:51 discuss that. It
35:52 >> cost Jensen dearly. He had two
35:54 mistresses. Good for him. A powerful old
35:57 man. But he's not an old man, sixty is
35:58 still a young man.
35:59 >> He thinks he can afford it. But the
36:02 thing is, by the way, his wife could
36:03 actually make a pretty penny out of this
36:06 If they get divorced, if the marriage
36:09 officially breaks up, the payout to his
36:11 wife could reach $ 77.5 billion.
36:14 The point is, the price is, ah,
36:16 >> yeah, yeah. Well, listen.
36:18 >> Because he went after another woman.
36:20 >> Well, I don't know. I think he's some
36:22 kind of educated person, he should have
36:24 signed some kind of documents with his
36:25 wife if he acted so recklessly, right?
36:28 >> Basically, no compensation at all, no
36:29 anything like that.
36:30 >> No, well, I'll say it again.
36:32 >> Listen, when you're in charge of such a
36:34 global giant and you...
36:35 >> Well, again, it's like Berlusconi, when
36:37 he divorced his wife, he was generally
36:38 fond of young concubines.
36:40 Well, I'm being rude, right? You can't
36:42 treat women like that. Well, he did say
36:44 that feminist justice and that they won
36:46 so much money from me.
36:48 Although he was a very charismatic,
36:49 interesting politician.
36:51 But listen, first of all, this is still
36:53 a classic honey trap, although, uh, it
36:55 is somewhat of a scandal. Okay, your
36:57 mistress is already one plane, and then
36:58 there are the issues with your wife.
37:01 But the question is, this lady was
37:03 suspected of having ties to the secret
37:04 services, at the very least to, uh,
37:06 industrial espionage, right?
37:08 There is such a thing as industrial
37:10 espionage.
37:12 And in fact, in this regard, uh, he
37:14 should be more careful, right?
37:18 Because I don’t understand these office
37:20 romances at all.
37:22 The employee immediately works less
37:24 effectively, right? Relationships are
37:26 always different, especially at this
37:27 level, right?
37:28 But it’s his choice, right?
37:31 Nevertheless, I, uh, without any of
37:33 these moralistic questions, whether to
37:36 cheat or not. Well, of course, if you
37:38 love and you feel good, don’t cheat. Of
37:40 course. You want to keep your family
37:42 together and so on. But there are also
37:43 security issues.
37:45 My context here is not, again, about
37:47 these moral aspects. Moral aspects are
37:50 obvious, right? If you have some kind of
37:52 sincere relationship, then, of course,
37:53 it's right to be a decent partner, right
37:55 And the general question is the security
37:57 of the company at the level you work for
37:59 , right?
38:00 If you, uh, are with the vice president
38:02 and I don't know which Huang—this is his
38:04 colleague in some position, I don't
38:05 remember now, she held.
38:07 >> In Singapore, I think, in Singapore.
38:10 Uh, that means you also have some kind
38:12 of relationship, and you, accordingly,
38:14 well, this can naturally influence
38:17 certain issues related to, let's say,
38:19 your business.
38:21 So it's strange that such a successful
38:23 entrepreneur, known throughout the world
38:25 , who led such a powerful company, is
38:27 also a shareholder there, right?
38:30 Uh, so he exposed himself, right? Well,
38:34 now they're already gossiping about him
38:36 . And the US is worried about other
38:38 issues. You see, Trump was worried about
38:39 putting artificial intelligence on hold
38:42 Because China is only eight months
38:44 behind, and NVIDIA produces the most
38:47 advanced, uh, chips, right?
38:49 Uh, microchips.
38:51 And if some kind of industrial espionage
38:53 is desired there, unintelligence, maybe
38:55 some new products, analogues, and so on
38:57 Well, we won't, then, what...
38:59 Yes-yes-yes, into these technical
39:01 aspects.
39:02 Well, listen, of course, why do two
39:04 congressional committees want to hear
39:05 from him, right?
39:07 Why is the National Intelligence Service
39:09 conducting an investigation, and this is
39:11 of the US president? Because it's a
39:13 company that
39:16 operates in an industry that produces
39:18 dual-use products, firstly, and secondly
39:21 , it's a strategic industry that ensures
39:23 the US's global advantage on the world
39:25 stage, right?
39:26 They restricted China's access to these
39:28 technologies. China produces its own
39:30 similar ones. Naturally, this worries
39:33 them. Well, that's why the guy exposed
39:35 himself.
39:35 >> He exposed himself.
39:37 Well, we'll see how it ends.
39:39 Well, basically, he's unemployed for now
39:40 , but on the other hand, the guy will
39:42 probably find a way to earn some money.
39:43 A
39:43 >> shareholder, a shareholder. That's all.
39:45 Well, it's like he was first among
39:46 equals there.
39:48 >> Let's not gloat, of course. We're not
39:50 here in any way. And in general, don't
39:52 cheat on your wives and live happily
39:53 ever after.
39:54 >> Yes. And why?
39:55 >> Well, thank you for the interesting
39:57 conversation, Vadim. See you next week.
39:59 >> May no one ever cheat on you. Love and
40:02 happiness to you. See you next week.
40:04 Bye-bye. Bye.
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