0:16 Mr. Wadeck, Mr. Kushner, I am very glad
0:28 I want to thank you first of all and
0:30 convey words of gratitude to President
0:32 Trump for organizing our contacts with
0:50 I know that on at least one track we
0:56 have a positive result, that is on the
0:58 humanitarian track, regarding the
1:00 exchange of detainees on both sides, and
1:02 another major step in this direction is
1:26 I would also like to ask you to convey
1:28 words of gratitude to Mrs. Trump, the
1:30 First Lady of the United States, for her
1:33 active participation in resolving the
1:35 humanitarian issue around the city of
1:37 Oleshky in the Kherson region.
2:03 >> We fully understand that without the
2:05 support of President Trump’s entire team
2:07 , including the support of the main
2:09 agencies of the State Department, the
2:11 Department of Defense—or as you call it
2:13 now, the Department of War—other
2:15 agencies, and your involvement, this
2:17 would have been impossible.
2:38 An idea was also raised that it would be
2:41 possible to continue this practice
2:54 with the involvement of human rights
2:56 commissioners from both Russia and
3:12 And, of course, it would be very
3:13 important to hear your assessment of
3:16 what has just taken place in Abu Dhabi,
3:18 your assessment of the nature of these
3:20 negotiations between Russia and Ukraine
3:22 , and the prospects for our contacts.
3:56 You also had contacts there with
3:58 representatives of a United Europe.
4:08 And, naturally, the assessments, your
4:12 of the problem from that side, from the
4:14 European angle, as diplomats say, are
4:16 also of great importance to us.
6:17 >> Mr. President, thank you very much for
6:19 receiving us today. I would like to say
6:21 that this is a very important meeting
6:25 I am very glad that we are ready to
6:27 announce that we have resumed work in a
6:32 I would like to say that President Trump
6:34 certainly supports what we are going to
6:36 tell you here today.
6:38 He believes, and asked us to convey to
6:40 you, that it is very important to end
6:42 this conflict as quickly as possible.
6:44 This is a very difficult conflict for
6:46 both sides. And we, for our part, are
6:48 doing everything necessary to bring it
6:50 to a successful conclusion. Many people
6:53 are working on this conflict and its
6:56 This includes Secretary of State Rubio
6:58 and many people working on our team, who
7:00 are making their critical contribution
7:02 to the successful end of this conflict.
7:06 Regarding the meetings in the United
7:08 Arab Emirates that have just taken place
7:10 there, we believe and assess that they
7:12 were held in a very positive atmosphere
7:15 We noticed that representatives from
7:17 both sides, Russia and Ukraine, were
7:19 working actively; the teams were working
7:21 actively with each other.
7:24 Russian representatives and members of
7:26 the Russian delegation sat at the same
7:28 table with members of the Ukrainian
7:30 delegation to discuss detailed problems
7:32 and their solutions.
7:36 I believe that many people, and this
7:38 includes our team, are working
7:39 tirelessly to find ways out of this
7:43 Jared and I, we view the way these
7:45 negotiations went quite positively.
7:48 One of these positive developments is
7:50 the upcoming prisoner exchange.
7:53 It is one of the largest exchanges to
7:55 take place between the countries.
7:58 I believe this is an indicator that we
8:00 are making progress in resolving this
8:44 >> Of course, I would also like to express
8:46 my gratitude to Mr. Avidinsky for your
8:48 work. You were present in Abu Dhabi.
8:51 I wanted to thank you for your work in
8:53 resolving this conflict from the very
8:56 You have been working in this direction
8:58 for several years now.
9:01 I thank you for your personal commitment
9:03 to finding ways to resolve this conflict
9:06 We met with Mr. Ushakov this morning,
9:08 and we had a very positive meeting. I
9:11 thank you for this meeting. We also met
9:14 For your part, Mr. Dmitriev, you are
9:17 doing very important work in this regard
10:16 >> As for the presence of European
10:18 representatives at the Abu Dhabi talks,
10:20 indeed, they were physically in the
10:24 They did not sit at the negotiating
10:26 table, but we kept them informed about
10:28 how the discussions were going.
10:30 They were involved; we passed on
10:32 information and the results of the talks
10:34 and negotiations conducted.
10:36 Therefore, we established very good
10:38 working relationships with them in Abu
10:42 After this meeting ends, we will head to
10:44 Ireland, where we have a meeting
10:46 scheduled with President Zelenskyy
10:48 before he returns home to Ukraine.
10:51 This is also a very important meeting.
10:54 We will relay to Mr. Zelenskyy the
10:56 results we were able to achieve during
10:58 today's meeting as well.
11:02 And we also hope, perhaps even
11:03 immediately after our meeting here today
11:05 ends, that we will be able to officially
11:08 announce the planning of the next
11:09 meeting within the framework of the
11:31 I would like to say, for my part, that
11:33 in Abu Dhabi, representatives of the
11:36 Russian, Ukrainian, and European
11:37 delegations agreed that they all want to
11:40 see an end to this armed conflict.
11:44 Everyone expressed this desire, but we
11:46 have not yet successfully finalized all
11:48 the steps that will need to be taken for
11:50 the conflict to be brought to a
11:51 successful conclusion.
12:12 I truly hope that today, during our
12:14 meeting, we can discuss perhaps some
12:16 approaches and some opportunities for
12:19 resolving this conflict, for its final
12:24 And I hope that within the framework of
12:26 today's discussion, we can talk about
12:28 the paths we could take toward
12:29 successfully ending this conflict.
12:34 As I said, after this meeting, we are
12:36 meeting with President Zelenskyy; we
12:38 will inform him of the results we
12:40 managed to achieve in this meeting and
12:42 also try to convince him that we need to
12:44 follow one of the chosen paths for a
12:46 successful end to this conflict.
13:08 We, for our part, see certain progress
13:11 on the European side. We see that they
13:13 are expressing a desire to participate
13:15 in negotiations, they are expressing a
13:18 desire to end this conflict.
13:21 And we hope that if we manage to involve
13:23 them in this multilateral format, we
13:25 will be able to successfully conclude
13:27 this conflict in this way.
14:06 And I would also like to say the
14:08 following: on the part of Europe, we see
14:10 a huge desire to end this—Europe would
14:13 like not just to end this conflict, but
14:15 it would like to ensure that a lasting
14:17 time of peace follows it.
14:23 That is why we would like to work with
14:25 the Russian side, with the Ukrainian and
14:28 the European one to end this conflict,
14:30 but we have also already begun
14:31 discussions with them regarding what the
14:33 security architecture will look like,
14:35 which will concern Russia, Ukraine, and
14:37 the European continent, which will allow
14:39 not only to end this conflict but to
14:41 prevent a new one from starting.
14:45 >> Well, I understand that this is closely
14:47 linked to territorial issues, right?
15:01 >> The territorial issue and other issues,
15:03 and we will talk through them today, and
15:05 I hope we will manage to find a solution
15:09 >> We will certainly deal with those now.
15:16 As for the durability of peace, its
15:18 flawlessness and reliability.
15:34 We would also like it to be an eternal
15:41 We know that the issues of territory are
15:43 understood differently by both sides.
15:52 For us, the people who live there are
15:59 Their traditions, culture, the right to
16:05 uh, by their own rules, by their
16:07 traditional values, in accordance with
16:09 their traditional values.
16:24 >> We know that the Ukrainian side raises
16:26 questions about so-called gray zones.
16:38 And this, as I have already said, will
16:40 always be a bone of contention.
16:43 For us, there is only one line of
16:45 demarcation—the state border line.
16:59 Because then it will be understandable
17:02 Here you are, here we are.
17:13 As soon as we get drawn into a
17:15 discussion about gray zones, they are
17:17 understood differently, and immediately
17:19 disputes and the instability of any
17:41 And there will be no lasting peace.
17:48 To this day, we hear from the Kiev
17:50 authorities that such-and-such territory
17:52 is controlled by them, and such-and-such
17:54 is not controlled by us.
18:09 This can go on forever, because going
18:11 there and seeing what is actually
18:13 happening is not easy in the conditions
18:41 >> Well, we had a good experience of
18:43 humanitarian cooperation within the
18:45 settlement of Oleshky. I already
18:58 Let's continue this joint work.
19:05 Within the framework of the strategic
19:07 line of defense of Ukraine, as they
19:09 consider it, in the Donbas
19:12 there is a settlement called
19:29 So, there are still about 400-500
19:41 Let's do the same thing we did in
19:50 Let's invite representatives of the
19:52 foreign press, including American,
20:03 Let's entrust this to
20:08 people who deal with human rights on
20:10 both sides, the ombudsmen for human
20:19 If, as the Ukrainian authorities claim,
20:21 they control this settlement, let them
20:39 In my view, this settlement is
20:40 controlled by Russian troops.
20:44 We will ensure security from our side.
20:59 We need five days to demine the
21:01 approaches to this settlement.
21:12 If Ukraine controls it, let them do the
21:21 In any case, we are inviting
21:26 the American press, international,
21:29 European, Ukrainian, and Russian media,
21:31 and human rights representatives from
21:33 both sides to help evacuate the hundreds
21:36 of civilians remaining there.
22:00 At the same time, we will see who really
22:02 controls this settlement.
22:19 To understand what is the most
22:20 acceptable outcome for ending this
22:22 conflict, including the territorial
22:44 Because, as I said at the beginning, we
22:46 will never resolve these grey zones.
22:57 There is only one clear line—the state
23:06 So, as for the Europeans, we have never
23:08 been against having a dialogue with
23:18 And we never broke it off.
23:25 It was they who broke off the dialogue
23:26 with the Russian Federation.
23:32 What is happening now?
23:37 We all say that we want peace
23:42 in the current combat zone, peace
23:44 between Russia and Ukraine.
23:58 And, as you have just said, dear
24:00 gentlemen, this peace must be lasting. I
24:03 not only confirm that, I would like it
24:05 to be, I would like it to be eternal.
24:26 We said from the very beginning that the
24:29 presence of any foreign troops on
24:30 Ukrainian territory is absolutely
24:50 Because we believe it threatens the
24:52 security of the Russian Federation.
24:59 And, in principle, everyone agreed with
25:02 this; in any case, during the
25:03 negotiations in Istanbul, that was
25:05 exactly the case. And even now, everyone
25:08 seems to have no objections to this.
25:23 The Europeans know about this.
25:28 What do we hear from them?
25:32 That after the peace agreement, they
25:34 will immediately send troops into
25:35 Ukrainian territory.
25:45 What does this mean?
25:46 We have already spoken about this. For
25:48 us, this is a legitimate target. Meaning
25:51 the war would resume immediately.
26:02 What does the American administration
26:04 propose, President Trump, as I recall?
26:18 President Trump proposes, let us agree
26:20 on the instruments for ensuring security
26:22 in Europe as a whole.
26:35 >> What do we hear from the Europeans?
26:44 Only after there is peace in Ukraine.
26:51 But after peace in Ukraine, they intend
26:53 to send troops into Ukrainian territory
27:01 And that is a continuation of the war.
27:07 The circle is closed.
27:11 You know, we have a very old joke about
27:19 It has no spatial, that is, no
27:21 geographical connection.
27:29 But given the specifics of today, I will
27:34 Let’s say some crook, who built some
27:36 cottages near Kyiv, is summoned to
27:38 investigative authorities, the NABU, for
28:05 They ask him: "Where did you get the
28:13 He answers: "From the nightstand."
28:21 Yes, all right. And who put the money in
28:32 And where did she get it?
28:34 >> And where does she have the money from?
28:36 >> I gave it to her.
28:39 >> And where did you get it from?
28:41 >> And where have you got it from?
28:43 >> From the nightstand.
28:45 >> Out of that out of that case or closet
28:49 >> The circle is closed.
28:50 >> So it's the vicious circle once again.
28:52 >> Well, it's the same with the Europeans.
28:55 >> And kind of well same same relates to
28:57 that European approach.
29:02 >> This is an unusual way to phrase the
29:04 question, but we would very much like
29:06 you, respected gentlemen, and the
29:08 American administration as a whole to
29:10 work with your European allies, so that
29:12 they finally decide for themselves what
29:14 they want—peace or war in Ukraine.
29:20 >> And actually we would very much like you
29:22 , your administration and your team to
29:24 work with the Europeans so that they
29:26 have a clear understanding of what the
29:28 final goal of their theirs is, whether
29:30 they want peace or war.
29:33 >> And we are, of course, ready to work
29:36 >> And definitely we are ready to to work