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Trump, Xi & Putin Summit: Nukes on the Table, Ukraine Left Out
Trump, Xi & Putin Summit: Nukes on the Table, Ukraine Left Out—What's at Stake?
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Not propaganda · agenda: US-Russia talks decide Ukraine's fate
Belief the Pravda network pushes: Russia and the United States should negotiate Ukraine's future without Europe, while Ukraine and the West block peace and threaten Russia.
The video relays reporting on the planned Trump-Xi-Putin meeting in Shenzhen, covering its schedule, nuclear arms control, Iran, and the fact that Ukraine is handled on a separate US-Russia track.
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“Ukraine, the official said, is not part of this conversation. Washington has, in the officials words, a whole another track with the Russians on that war”
Ukraine, the official said, is not part of this conversation. Washington has, in the officials words, a whole another track with the Russians on that war
The video reports the White House briefing accurately and attributes the Ukraine exclusion to officials. It does not argue that the US and Russia should decide Ukraine's fate without Europe, and it does not blame Ukraine or the West for blocking peace.
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Transcript (en, 676 lines)
0:00 Thursday afternoon in a glittering tech
0:02 city in southern China, Donald Trump
0:04 finishes a working lunch with Xiinping.
0:06 Then the door opens for a third man,
0:08 Vladimir Putin. These three leaders have
0:11 never sat down together. And between
0:13 them, they command most of the world's
0:15 nuclear warheads with no treaty now
0:17 capping a single one. The war in Iran,
0:20 which analysts blame for rising oil
0:22 prices, is on their agenda. So why is
0:25 the White House already promising that
0:27 nothing will be signed? For weeks, the
0:30 meeting was a rumor with a date range.
0:32 On Friday, it got a day. The New York
0:34 Post reported first that President Trump
0:36 will hold a three-way summit with
0:38 Xiinping and Vladimir Putin on Thursday
0:41 on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific
0:43 Economic Cooperation Summit in Shenzhen.
0:46 Later that same day, the White House
0:48 confirmed it. A senior administration
0:50 official then walked reporters through
0:52 the plan in a briefing and the details
0:54 tell you a lot about what Washington
0:56 wants out of that room and what it is
0:58 trying hard to keep out of it. Start
1:00 with the timing. Trump leaves Washington
1:03 early Monday. On Thursday morning,
1:05 November 19th, he joins the other APEC
1:08 leaders for a multilateral session. That
1:10 afternoon, he sits down with she alone
1:12 for a bilateral meeting and a working
1:15 lunch. Only after that, at the very end
1:17 of the China stop, does Putin join them.
1:20 The White House gave no exact hour and
1:22 not even a formal date, only that the
1:25 three-way meeting comes at the
1:26 conclusion of the visit. The order
1:28 matters. Trump and she get their private
1:30 time first. Putin walks into a
1:33 conversation that has already started
1:34 without him. Then the agenda. White
1:37 House Assistant Press Secretary Olivia
1:39 Wales put it this way. The president
1:41 will discuss the reduction of nuclear
1:43 weapons in the world among other topics.
1:46 The senior official added a second item.
1:48 I think the president does intend to
1:50 talk about Iran in the trilateral
1:52 meeting, the official said. And then
1:55 came the line that will be read very
1:56 carefully in Moscow and in Kiev.
1:59 Ukraine, the official said, is not part
2:01 of this conversation. Washington has, in
2:04 the officials words, a whole another
2:06 track with the Russians on that war, and
2:08 China is not really a part of that
2:10 track. One more detail surprised many
2:13 listeners. There is no separate
2:15 one-on-one meeting scheduled between
2:17 Trump and Putin during the trip. Their
2:19 first face-to-face encounter since the
2:21 Alaska summit of August 2025 will happen
2:24 with Xiinping sitting at the same table.
2:26 Now, the most striking part of the whole
2:28 briefing, expectations. Most summits are
2:31 sold in advance as breakthroughs. This
2:33 one is being sold as the opposite. We do
2:36 not expect to get to any kind of
2:37 agreement. A senior official said the
2:40 meeting was described as the entry
2:42 point, the first conversation. Another
2:45 official speaking to the Associated
2:47 Press called it the beginning of
2:49 hopefully a conversation on nuclear
2:51 [clears throat] weapons. Even the report
2:53 that broke the news hinted at a wider
2:55 menu. The Post said the talks would
2:57 focus largely on an ambitious nuclear
2:59 arms control pact, but could also touch
3:01 on North Korea and the war in Iran.
3:04 Trump himself kept things loose when
3:06 reporters asked him earlier in the week.
3:08 We'll talk a lot of things, including
3:10 denuclearization, he said. But we'll be
3:12 talking a lot of things. So, here is the
3:15 picture. Three men who have never held
3:17 talks as a group, an agenda that is
3:19 officially narrow, a promise in advance
3:22 of no deal, and one war Ukraine that one
3:25 of the three guests very much wants to
3:27 talk about. Hold on to that last point
3:30 because the Kremlin has already said
3:32 something that does not fit the White
3:34 House script at all. We will get to it.
3:36 If you want to follow this story through
3:38 Thursday and whatever comes out of that
3:40 room, subscribe now so the update lands
3:43 in your feed the moment it breaks. The
3:45 strange thing is that these three men
3:47 have been in the same building before.
3:49 In 2019, Trump, Shei, and Putin all
3:52 attended the G20 summit in Osaka, Japan.
3:55 They shook hands, posed for the family
3:57 photo, and held their own separate
3:58 meetings. But they never sat down as a
4:01 group. 7 years later, the thing that did
4:03 not happen in Osaka is about to happen
4:06 in Shenzhen. And it is not because the
4:08 three are strangers. Putin and Shei have
4:11 met more than 40 times since she became
4:13 president in 2013, and they call each
4:16 other dear friend. Trump and Putin have
4:19 met face-toface on seven occasions.
4:21 Trump and Shei have held talks eight
4:23 times, including Trump's visit to
4:25 Beijing in May and she's state visit to
4:28 Washington in September. Every pair in
4:30 this triangle already has a phone line.
4:33 What has never existed is a single table
4:35 for all three. Getting there took months
4:37 of public hints. The Kremlin floated the
4:40 idea first and kept repeating it. In
4:42 early November, Kremlin spokesman Dmitri
4:44 Pescov said work was underway to
4:47 coordinate the meeting, and China's
4:49 foreign ministry confirmed it was in
4:50 communication with the other parties.
4:52 Trump sounded almost casual about it.
4:55 "If President Xi wants to have it, I'd
4:57 have it," he told reporters in October.
5:00 On Friday, the hints became a schedule.
5:02 "Now look at what each man gets just
5:04 from showing up. Because that is where
5:06 the irony starts for Putin. The prize is
5:09 the photo. Analysts quoted by the
5:12 Associated Press say the Kremlin sees
5:13 the meeting as a coveted chance to
5:15 posture as a superpower on par with
5:18 Washington and Beijing. A Moscow-based
5:20 analyst told Al Jazzer that simply
5:22 sitting at that table would make Putin
5:24 first among equals and that a meeting by
5:27 itself would be a success he could sell
5:29 at home. This is the leader whose
5:31 country Western governments have spent
5:33 years trying to isolate over the
5:35 invasion of Ukraine. For Shei, the prize
5:37 is the stage. Shenzhen is China's
5:40 showcase, a city that grew from a small
5:42 fishing village into a global technology
5:45 hub in just a few decades. APEC brings
5:47 21 economies there next week, hosting
5:50 the leaders of the world's other two
5:52 great nuclear powers, lets Beijing flex
5:55 its growing clout in front of all of
5:56 them. But here is the catch for Beijing.
5:59 China has spent years presenting itself
6:01 as the champion of multilateralism, the
6:04 defender of free trade and international
6:06 institutions. A private club of three
6:09 big powers cuts against that story. You
6:11 sort of run counter to Chinese support
6:14 of multilateralism, said Huang Boon,
6:16 [clears throat] a professor of Chinese
6:18 foreign policy at Nanyang Technological
6:20 University in Singapore. And for Trump,
6:23 the prize may be at home. Democrats won
6:25 control of both chambers of Congress in
6:27 this month's midterm elections. Inderjet
6:29 Parmar, a professor of international
6:31 politics at City St. George's University
6:34 of London, told Al Jazer that after the
6:36 midterms, the domestic political need
6:39 for a foreign policy win is real. An
6:43 image of Trump sitting between she and
6:45 Putin, he argued, could be spun as proof
6:47 that American power still commands the
6:50 table, even if the substance is limited.
6:52 So all three leaders want the picture.
6:55 The question is what each of them wants
6:57 to say once the cameras leave. And on
7:00 the first item of the official agenda,
7:02 the gap between them is measured in
7:04 thousands of warheads. Last February,
7:07 something quietly disappeared that had
7:08 been in place for more than half a
7:10 century. The New START treaty signed by
7:12 the United States and Russia in 2010
7:15 expired. It limited how many strategic
7:18 nuclear warheads and launchers each side
7:20 could deploy. When it lapsed, the two
7:23 largest atomic arsenals on Earth were
7:25 left without any caps for the first time
7:27 in more than 50 years. It did not have
7:29 to end that way, at least on paper.
7:32 Moscow offered to extend the deal for
7:34 one more year. Trump said no. He called
7:37 instead for a new, improved, and
7:40 modernized agreement, one that would
7:42 also include China. Secretary of State
7:45 Marco Rubio explained the logic. In
7:47 order to have true arms control in the
7:49 21st century, he said it's impossible to
7:52 do something that doesn't include China
7:54 because of their vast and rapidly
7:56 growing stockpile. That is the bet
7:58 behind Thursday. Trump let the old
8:01 two-player treaty die in order to build
8:02 a three-player one. Shenzhen is the
8:05 first time all three players will be in
8:07 the same room to even discuss it. Here
8:09 is the problem. The three arsenals are
8:11 nowhere near the same size. The United
8:13 States and Russia are each estimated to
8:16 hold more than 5,000 nuclear warheads.
8:19 China, according to Pentagon estimates,
8:21 has more than 600. Beijing's position
8:24 has always followed from that gap. Why
8:27 should the smaller power accept limits
8:28 written for the two giants? China's
8:31 foreign ministry said it plainly last
8:33 month. It would be neither fair,
8:35 reasonable, nor realistic, it said, to
8:37 ask China to join so-called trilateral
8:40 nuclear disarmament negotiations at this
8:42 stage. Washington's answer delivered in
8:44 Friday's briefing was blunt. We do think
8:47 it's time for China to sort of step up,
8:49 you know, to the adults table, if you
8:51 will, and have adult conversations about
8:53 adult things, a senior US official said.
8:56 The official accused Beijing of building
8:58 up its arsenal without enough
9:00 transparency and argued that decisions
9:03 made in Beijing affect the security of
9:05 everyone else. [snorts] So, picture the
9:07 table on Thursday. On one side, a host
9:09 who has said on the record that he does
9:12 not want these negotiations. On another,
9:15 a guest whose offer to extend the old
9:16 treaty was turned down. And in the
9:18 middle, an American president who wants
9:20 a bigger deal than the one he let
9:22 expire. There is a darker thread
9:24 underneath and it concerns testing. In
9:27 late 2025, Trump announced plans to
9:29 resume American nuclear weapons testing,
9:31 arguing the United States should not be
9:34 the only country holding back. It later
9:36 emerged that those tests would not
9:38 involve nuclear explosions. Around the
9:40 same time, Putin told his government to
9:42 study whether Russia might carry out
9:44 nuclear tests of its own. Both moves
9:46 showed how quickly the old guard rails
9:48 can start to wobble when there is no
9:50 treaty holding them in place. What does
9:52 that mean for you? A world with no caps
9:55 is a world where each side plans for the
9:57 worst the other could build. Every new
9:59 warhead, missile, and submarine in that
10:01 race is paid for by taxpayers in
10:04 Washington, in Moscow, and in Beijing. A
10:07 conversation that slows the race, even
10:09 without a signed deal, is worth
10:11 something. A photo that changes nothing,
10:13 is worth much less. Trump has also said
10:16 the United States is already talking
10:18 with Russia and China about nuclear
10:20 disarmament. Thursday is the first time
10:22 those talks get a single table, but
10:24 nuclear weapons are only the first item.
10:27 The second is a war the United States is
10:29 fighting right now. Iran was the second
10:32 item in Friday's briefing, and it may
10:34 turn out to be the most consequential
10:36 because unlike nuclear arms control,
10:38 which is a conversation about the
10:40 future, the war in Iran is happening
10:43 now. and the two men Trump will be
10:45 talking to both have ties to Thran.
10:48 Start with Moscow. Over the course of
10:50 the Ukraine war, Russia has deepened its
10:52 military, intelligence, and diplomatic
10:55 partnership with Iran, according to the
10:57 Associated Press. Then Beijing, which
10:59 also maintains ties with Thran. When
11:02 Trump raises Iran at that table, he is
11:04 raising it with two governments that
11:06 still talk to the Iranian leadership at
11:08 a time when Washington is at war with
11:10 it. So what exactly will Trump ask them
11:12 for? Nobody would say. Officials gave no
11:15 details on what the president intends to
11:17 propose to she and Putin about Iran or
11:20 whether Washington will seek their
11:21 support for a new diplomatic push to end
11:23 the conflict. They did not say what
11:25 role, if any, Russia or China might be
11:28 asked to play. The signals from
11:30 Washington this week point in several
11:32 directions at once. Earlier in the week,
11:34 Trump said the United States no longer
11:36 needed an agreement with Iran. He
11:38 directed Vice President JD Vance, who
11:40 had been involved in diplomatic contacts
11:42 over the conflict, to turn his attention
11:45 to domestic corruption investigations
11:47 instead. The president has kept
11:49 threatening more military action against
11:51 the Iranian government, even as his
11:53 administration stresses the economic
11:55 pressure it is putting on Thran. And now
11:58 Iran is on the agenda of the most
12:00 unusual summit of his presidency. No
12:02 deal needed, more pressure, and now a
12:05 place for Iran on the agenda with Moscow
12:07 and Beijing. Is the goal in Shenzhen to
12:10 pull Russia and China away from Thrron
12:13 or to bring them into a new push to end
12:14 the war? Officials simply did not say.
12:17 Here is why this matters at your kitchen
12:19 table. Analysts say the rise in global
12:21 crude prices is due mostly to the Iran
12:24 war. Trump has offered a different
12:26 explanation. He has blamed surging
12:28 energy prices on Ukraine's attacks on
12:30 Russian oil refineries. And recently, he
12:32 struck a diesel deal with Russia, waving
12:35 sanctions on Moscow and allowing the
12:37 sale of millions of tons of the fuel.
12:39 Notice the irony. In the same season
12:41 that Washington is trying to broker an
12:43 end to Russia's war in Ukraine, it has
12:46 eased sanctions to let Russian diesel
12:48 flow while a separate war in the Middle
12:50 East squeezes energy markets. Whatever
12:53 Trump says about Iran on Thursday, the
12:55 price of fuel is part of the
12:57 conversation whether anyone mentions it
12:59 or not. There was one more surprise on
13:01 the menu. The New York Post reported
13:03 that the three leaders could also touch
13:05 on North Korea. Pyongyangs nuclear
13:07 weapons program sits right next to
13:09 everything else on this agenda, but in
13:11 Friday's briefing, the administration
13:13 sounded much cooler about any direct
13:15 contact. As of right now, there are no
13:18 plans at all for engagement with North
13:20 Korea, a senior official said. So, North
13:23 Korea may come up as a topic. Kim
13:25 Jong-un will not be getting a phone
13:27 call. So, the official menu is nuclear
13:29 weapons and Iran. Two subjects where
13:32 Washington wants something from both of
13:33 its guests. But the real fight over this
13:36 meeting is about the subject Washington
13:38 says is not on the menu at all. Remember
13:41 that Kremlin line? Here it is. On
13:44 Thursday, one day before the White House
13:45 briefing, Kremlin foreign policy aid
13:48 Yuri Ushakov spoke to Russian state
13:50 media about the trip. Naturally, during
13:52 the planned meeting with Trump at the
13:53 apex summit in Shenzhen, he said, "We
13:56 will continue to discuss the full range
13:58 of issues related to the settlement. The
14:01 settlement he meant is Ukraine." Then on
14:04 Friday, Washington said two things.
14:06 Ukraine is not on the agenda of the
14:08 three-way meeting and there is no
14:10 separate Trump Putin meeting scheduled.
14:13 Put those statements side by side and
14:15 you get a real puzzle if Ukraine is off
14:18 the trilateral agenda and there is no
14:20 one-on-one. Where exactly does the
14:23 Kremlin expect to continue to discuss
14:25 it? None of the officials has explained
14:27 the gap and that gap is the single
14:29 detail to watch most closely on
14:31 Thursday. Why does Moscow care so much?
14:34 According to the Wall Street Journal, it
14:36 was Putin who proposed the three-way
14:37 meeting in the first place as a way to
14:40 secure a peace deal more favorable to
14:42 Russia. Edgard Kagan, a former US
14:45 ambassador to Malaysia, now at the
14:47 Center for Strategic and International
14:49 Studies, described the Kremlin's goal to
14:51 the Associated Press. The key for Putin,
14:54 he said, was signaling a desire to talk
14:56 to the president and talk to Chairman Xi
14:59 in a way that suggests that they're
15:00 making decisions on Ukraine, which Kagan
15:03 added, the Ukrainians and the Europeans
15:05 obviously don't like. They don't.
15:07 Ukraine's foreign minister Andre Cibbeha
15:10 warned that the summit would only
15:11 encourage Putin to continue this war.
15:14 President Vladimir Zalinski has voiced
15:17 concern that the meeting could become a
15:18 platform to discuss a deal behind Kiev's
15:21 back. Europe's leaders, already alarmed,
15:23 agreed this week to send their own
15:25 negotiating team to the next round of
15:26 peace talks. Thursday's meeting is
15:29 exactly the kind of room Europe fears
15:31 being left out of. Here is the twist,
15:33 though. The man who could help keep
15:35 Ukraine off the table may be Xiinping.
15:38 German President Frank Walter Steinmeer
15:41 said that when he raised Ukraine with Xi
15:42 in Beijing on October 30th, he saw a
15:45 surprise on shei's face. According to
15:48 Steinmeer, she said the three presidents
15:50 would probably meet in Shenzhen, but not
15:52 to discuss Ukraine and that the Russia
15:55 Ukraine war is a European conflict in
15:57 which Europeans must sit at the table.
16:00 Beijing, in other words, does not want
16:02 to own this war at the negotiating
16:03 table, even as it remains Moscow's
16:06 number one trading partner and its main
16:08 supplier of key technologies.
16:10 Washington's own Ukraine track is
16:12 already moving elsewhere. Russian and
16:14 Ukrainian delegations resumed US
16:16 mediated talks in Abu Dhabi this week
16:19 for the first time in more than 8
16:20 months. That is the whole another track
16:22 the senior official was talking about.
16:25 Seen from the White House mixing that
16:27 track with a three-way photo in China
16:29 would only blur it. And hanging
16:31 [clears throat] over all of this is a
16:32 word from 1945.
16:34 Yaltta. That was the conference where
16:37 Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin shaped
16:39 the post-war order in Europe. Pod Toltoy
16:42 who chairs the Russian Parliament's
16:44 foreign affairs committee has described
16:46 Shenzhen as a path toward a new Yalta
16:49 according to a Moscow-based analyst.
16:52 Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Pescov has
16:54 dismissed those comparisons noting that
16:56 any agreements reached in Shenzhen could
16:59 not be enforced on others. No one tries
17:01 to impose any particular view of global
17:03 order. He said for American allies the
17:06 worry is quieter. Interjet Palmer warned
17:09 that a standalone three-way meeting
17:11 breaks the post-war pattern in which
17:13 Washington consulted its allies before
17:15 engaging Moscow or Beijing. The real
17:18 risk, he said, is the normalization of
17:20 great power deals struck with little
17:22 consultation of those most affected. But
17:25 not every deal Trump wants in China
17:27 involves Putin at all. The one that may
17:29 matter most to American factories is the
17:31 one he makes with Shei over lunch.
17:33 Before Putin ever walks in, Trump and
17:36 Shei will spend Thursday afternoon on
17:38 something far less historic and far more
17:40 practical. Whether China is keeping its
17:42 promises. The two leaders reached a set
17:45 of trade commitments at their two
17:46 earlier meetings this year in Beijing
17:49 and in Washington. The White House says
17:51 it wants to build on those, but behind
17:53 the polite language, officials made
17:55 clear they are frustrated. And the
17:57 frustration has a name, rare earths.
18:01 These minerals and the products made
18:03 from them feed industries from defense
18:05 manufacturing to advanced electronics.
18:08 China dominates their supply and
18:10 according to a senior US official,
18:12 Beijing is not delivering. We're not
18:15 getting them at the pace and at the
18:16 level that we would like to be receiving
18:18 them at. The official said that
18:20 frustration has already left a mark. The
18:23 official said it was part of the reason
18:24 Washington extended the trade
18:26 arrangement known as the Booen Agreement
18:28 for only two months instead of six. a
18:31 shorter leash. In other words, if
18:33 Beijing wants a longer extension, it has
18:35 to show more consistent compliance. I
18:38 expect the president will raise it with
18:40 President Xi, the official said.
18:42 Officials also complained about Chinese
18:44 non-tariff barriers, the rules and
18:47 hurdles that can quietly wipe out the
18:49 benefit of lower tariffs. American and
18:51 Chinese representatives met again on
18:53 Friday to work through implementation,
18:55 but do not expect a big announcement.
18:57 The White House said it does not plan to
18:59 unveil a new tariff agreement right
19:01 after the Trump meeting. The goal is to
19:04 review progress, not to sign something
19:06 new. So what does that mean for you? If
19:09 the parts and minerals behind everyday
19:10 electronics and American weapons keep
19:12 arriving slowly, the cost lands on
19:15 factories, on defense programs, and
19:17 eventually on shelves. Thursday's lunch
19:20 is where that pressure will be applied.
19:22 There's also a famous passenger on this
19:24 trip. The White House said Elon Musk,
19:26 the head of Tesla and SpaceX, is
19:28 expected to join Trump for parts of the
19:30 China visit. Asked why, the official
19:33 pointed to Musk's extensive business
19:35 interests in the US China relationship
19:37 and his role in sectors that matter to
19:39 national security and suggested he could
19:41 be useful in an advisory capacity. But
19:44 Musk will not be in the room when it
19:46 counts. He will not attend the bilateral
19:48 with Shei or the trilateral with Putin.
19:51 Those will be official meetings with
19:53 officials only participating, the
19:55 official said. The official also played
19:57 down the chance of detailed talks about
19:59 Starlink and its role in the war in
20:01 Ukraine. And there is a shadow over the
20:03 technology talks. Jensen Huang resigned
20:06 as chief executive of Nvidia this week
20:08 after revelations about personal
20:10 relationships, including one with a
20:12 woman US intelligence officials
20:15 reportedly suspect of working for
20:16 Chinese intelligence. These are reported
20:19 suspicions, not proven facts, and
20:21 everyone involved is presumed innocent.
20:24 The White House insists the matter will
20:25 not affect the trip. The situation with
20:28 Nvidia should not really have any
20:30 bearing on the trip, a senior official
20:32 said. At the same time, the
20:34 administration is considering tightening
20:36 existing restrictions on exports of
20:38 advanced American artificial
20:40 intelligence chips. Shenzhen is only the
20:42 last stop. The trip begins in Manila,
20:45 where Trump is set to meet leaders of
20:47 the Quad, the grouping of the United
20:49 States, Japan, India, and Australia on
20:52 Tuesday evening, and take part in a
20:54 special summit with Southeast Asian
20:56 nations. He will then hold talks with
20:58 the Philippine president focused on
21:00 commercial deals and investments in
21:02 aviation, defense, energy, and
21:05 technology. By Thursday, then Trump
21:08 arrives at the trilateral after days
21:10 spent with American allies and partners
21:12 across the region. Whether he walks into
21:15 that room with more leverage or with
21:17 less is the question that will decide
21:19 how this trip is judged, which brings us
21:21 back to the paradox we started with. In
21:24 the comment sections under the first
21:26 videos about this meeting, the split is
21:28 already sharp and it runs along three
21:30 lines. The first camp sees a peace
21:32 opportunity. One viewer called the
21:35 meeting Trump last chance to talk peace
21:37 and hoped all three leaders would seize
21:40 it. Another wrote that these three
21:42 leaders were getting together to fix the
21:44 world's problems, then added a cautious
21:46 line of their own. Time will tell. For
21:49 this camp, the photo is the point. If
21:51 the men who control most of the world's
21:53 nuclear weapons can sit in one room,
21:56 that alone lowers the temperature. The
21:58 second camp sees exactly the opposite, a
22:01 deal over other people's heads. They're
22:03 going to try and carve up Ukraine like
22:05 its real estate, one commenter wrote.
22:07 Another was frustrated that NATO is
22:09 sitting back, not even involved, while
22:12 Washington talks to Russia and China
22:13 alone. That is close to the fear
22:16 Cailliv's foreign minister voiced when
22:17 he warned the summit would only
22:19 encourage Putin to keep fighting. And it
22:21 is the fear the White House is trying to
22:23 answer by keeping Ukraine off the
22:26 agenda. And the third camp simply
22:28 expects nothing. No deals will be
22:31 fostered this time," one viewer
22:33 predicted, guessing the three would talk
22:34 about Iran, Taiwan, and Ukraine without
22:37 settling anything. Another dismissed the
22:40 whole event as a photo op. A third saw
22:42 it in purely commercial terms, writing
22:45 that Trump is about business and making
22:47 money. On this one point, the skeptics
22:50 in the White House actually agree.
22:52 Officials themselves say no agreement is
22:55 expected. There were admirers, too. One
22:58 viewer called Trump the most powerful
23:00 man on planet Earth. These are personal
23:02 opinions from viewers, not verified
23:04 facts, but they frame the question
23:07 Thursday will answer. So, where do you
23:09 stand? Is the first ever Trump, she and
23:12 Putin table a real chance to slow the
23:14 nuclear race and calm the war in Iran,
23:16 or a stage that hands Putin the picture
23:18 he wanted and leaves Ukraine and
23:20 America's allies out in the hallway?
23:23 Tell us in the comments. So why is the
23:25 White House promising in advance that
23:28 nothing will be signed at the first
23:29 meeting of its kind in history? Because
23:31 the meeting itself is the move.
23:33 Washington wants China at the nuclear
23:35 table and Beijing has said for years
23:38 that it will not sit there. Getting she
23:40 into the same room as the Russian and
23:42 American leaders with arms control
23:44 officially on the agenda is already the
23:47 thing Trump has been asking for.
23:49 Promising no deal lowers the bar, keeps
23:52 the pressure off shei, and leaves room
23:54 for a second meeting. And by drawing a
23:56 hard line around Ukraine, the White
23:58 House is trying to make sure Putin gets
24:00 his photo without getting a new
24:02 negotiating table. Whether that plan
24:04 survives contact with the room is
24:06 another matter. Here are three signs to
24:08 watch. First, the Kremlin's account of
24:10 the meeting. Yuri Ushikov has already
24:13 said Ukraine will be discussed in
24:14 Shenzhen. If the Russian readout talks
24:17 about a settlement and the American one
24:18 does not, you will know the two sides
24:21 walked out of the same room with very
24:23 different stories. Second, Beijing's
24:25 words on arms control. China has called
24:28 trilateral nuclear talks neither fair,
24:31 reasonable, nor realistic. If anything
24:34 after Thursday mentions follow-up
24:35 contacts, experts, or a next round, that
24:38 is real movement. If China's statement
24:40 is all about friendship and
24:42 multilateralism, the nuclear track
24:44 stalled at the door. Third, the rare
24:47 earth's clock. The Bassan arrangement
24:49 was extended for only 2 months. Watch
24:51 whether Trump and she announced faster
24:53 deliveries or whether that short
24:55 extension starts ticking down with no
24:57 fix. And watch the calendar beyond
25:00 Shenzhen. One Moscow analyst has
25:02 suggested a follow-up could come at the
25:04 G20 summit in Miami in December and
25:07 warned that without results before
25:08 Christmas, it will be just a photo op.
25:11 Three leaders, one table, and a promise
25:14 of no deal. On Thursday, we find out
25:17 whether that promise was modesty or a
25:19 warning. If you want to understand the
25:21 war that shapes so much of this agenda,
25:24 the next video on your screen picks up
25:26 that story. Thanks for watching.
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